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Posted on 02/10/2012 4:37:35 AM PST by KantianBurke
SAN DIEGO – The Marine Corps on Thursday once again did damage control after a photograph surfaced of a sniper team in Afghanistan posing in front of a flag with a logo resembling that of the notorious Nazi SS -- a special unit that murdered millions of Jews, gypsies and others. The Corps said in a statement that using the symbol was not acceptable, but the Marines in the photograph taken in September 2010 will not be disciplined because investigators determined it was a naive mistake. The Marines believed the SS symbol was meant to represent sniper scouts and never intended to be associated with a racist organization, said Maj. Gabrielle Chapin, a spokeswoman at Camp Pendleton, where the Marines were based.
Rabbi Marvin Hier, founder of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, headquartered in Los Angeles, said he does not buy the explanation that posing with the flag was an innocent mistake and insisted the American public has a right to know what happened.
"If you look at any book on the Nazi period, this is the dreaded symbol of the SS, and to have a Marine Corps unit adopt it and put it beside the American flag when 200,000 Americans died to free the world of that dreaded symbol is just beyond the pale," he said.
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Assume they got a local to take a photo. That means a minimum of ten Marines didn't know about the SS logo.
If 99% of Marines don't recognize the SS logo, then your statement is 90.4% likely to be true. If only nine out of ten don't recognize it, the probability drops to about 35%. If as many as one out of five does recognize it, then the statement is about 11% likely to be true.
I wonder how Marine knowledge of Nazi history compares to that of the general public. I'll bet LTC Oliver North would have recognized it!
They knew what it was,, and thought it made them look tough and all. They should be ashamed to have that logo. The punishment should be a sweaty afternoon reminding them that the Eagle, Globe and Anchor beats any SS crap,, any day. Why have the logo of a lesser quality unit on their flag? The SS was never the equivalent of the USMC of that era. They could have never taken Iwo Jima,,,
For crying out loud. Is FR now becoming a bastion of bed wetting pansies?
Maybe we should do away with uniforms. After all the Nazi’s wore uniforms too.
The symbol stands for Scout Sniper not Shutzstaffel. It’s a badass symbol and they should keep it instead of giving in to the PC bed wetters.
Agreed with your post 103. All i would say is that it’s freaking sad,, for a US Marine to invoke the SS as a metaphor of badassery. They aren’t fit to shine USMC boots. But this is a modern version of so many of our WWII units using American Indian symbols,,, yelling Geronimo, etc. That wasnt so bad. No punishment here,, except they need to be educated until they realize that SS runes just make then look immature and childish,, not Badass.
>>>They have these things nowadays called books
Books are old-fashioned things, and the youth of today have no time for them. Why should a school kid buy a book, when he can have cooler stuff like video games, ipods, mobile phones, and action figures (sarc).
I fear for the future of American democracy.
This beyond comparison unit you mention,,, that we never had anything so good,, that the same one that the US military regularly wiped out,, and that the Russians wiped out? And the WWII USMC was superior to the SS ,,
Except the SS was amazing when they stripped Ukrainian woman naked and shot em by the tens of thousands. Proof of the Nazi homo connection if you’ve ever seen Ukranian women.
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Oh, you talked with them about it?
Cool.
These are kids away from home under pressure.
They were counseled and educated. The Corps issued
an apology and promised it would not re occur.
Thats good enough for me.
As Fr. Collins used to say to me at Confession, “Go in peace and sin no more”.
Doubt he spoke to them,,, he probably assumed they wouldn’t want to be associated with a unit that mass murdered hot naked women.
Doubt he spoke to them,,, he probably assumed they wouldn’t want to be associated with a unit that mass murdered hot naked women.
Doubt he spoke to them,,, he probably assumed they wouldn’t want to be associated with a unit that mass murdered hot naked women.
Now if they had posed with one of the Confederate battle flags (stars and bars), the media would have gone hysterical.
“They knew what it was,, and thought it made them look tough and all. They should be ashamed to have that logo. The punishment should be a sweaty afternoon reminding them that the Eagle, Globe and Anchor beats any SS crap,, any day. Why have the logo of a lesser quality unit on their flag? The SS was never the equivalent of the USMC of that era. They could have never taken Iwo Jima,,,”
Sums it up perfectly bump. As for those that excuse the use of Nazi symbols, you’re not fit to shine the shoes of any of American WWII GI’s.
Right on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But that does not mean that this was dumb in the sense that it gave the left a perfect talking point.
Exactly,, they just need someone to tell them that’s not anything the corps wants to ever be associated with. And while I think it’s naive to pretend they have never heard of the SS, and just used the runes purely by accident,,, I do doubt they really understand how the SS murdered tens of thousands of unarmed people,, especially sickening is the naked women on the eastern front,, and the US soldiers taken prisoner at malmedy.
If u ever line up unarmed people and machine gun them,,, you aren’t an elite unit.
It really is just an opportunity for someone to tell these kids how they differ from trash like the SS. Id feel the same if they put a symbol from MS-13 on their flag.
I am proud to say that my uncle (still living) personally sent more than a few SS to hell in the fight at the gates of Moosburg. He is acknowledged as the first GI through the gates. He was nineteen.
God bless your uncle!
If it weren't for him and his fellow GIs, you would be speaking German, and I (an American Jew) would never had been born.
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