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Via. Drudge: Fox Tests Volt, Runs Out Of Juice In Lincoln Tunnel
The Truth about Cars ^ | February 7, 2012

Posted on 02/07/2012 2:00:54 PM PST by Zakeet

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To: napscoordinator
Electric cars will NEVER compete economically with gasoline powered cars. In fact, we shouldn't even try to replace one with the other. Electric cars will never be able to overcome the limitations of the battery, and when you consider the entire picture (all the energy inputs required to move an electric car X amount of miles vs all the energy inputs required to move a gasoline powered car the same amount of miles) there really is no comparison.

Why can't people accept that gasoline is now and for the foreseeable future the most efficient form of transportation energy? And in fact, where 'green' is concerned, gas powered cars are FAR MORE GREEN and better for the environment than electric cars.

41 posted on 02/07/2012 2:46:17 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: napscoordinator

It’s just a matter of physics, and the storage capacity of energy. No batteries ever invented or contemplated pack as much energy potential in the same volume/weight as a gallon of gasoline. Sorry, but you can’t “wish” away that basic fact.


42 posted on 02/07/2012 2:50:55 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lazlo in PA; All

The new and improved version

43 posted on 02/07/2012 2:51:24 PM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I don't recall the Federal Govt' subsidizing the Wright Brothers

The Wright Brothers did have a contract from the Army, beginning in 1908.

44 posted on 02/07/2012 2:54:35 PM PST by wideminded
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To: napscoordinator

And you’re right.. The first computer wasn’t ‘handheld’.

It was called the Eniac, designed in 1943 and went into operation in 1046.

“ENIAC contained 17,468 vacuum tubes, 7,200 crystal diodes, 1,500 relays, 70,000 resistors, 10,000 capacitors and around 5 million hand-soldered joints. It weighed more than 30 short tons (27 t), was roughly 8 by 3 by 100 feet (2.4 m × 0.9 m × 30 m), took up 1800 square feet (167 m2), and consumed 150 kW of power[”

You would need an awful big ‘hand’ to hold it! :0)


45 posted on 02/07/2012 2:54:48 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“The ENIAC contained 17,468 vacuum tubes... “

And that’s where the term bug had it’s genesis. A moth got into one of those early beasts with all the tubes and caused some problems. A computer bug.

I’ve been around computers for a couple of years. First one I worked on was a Sperry Univac 1219B missile fire control digital computer, with a whopping 32KB core memory.


46 posted on 02/07/2012 2:54:59 PM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: N. Theknow

The Baker was shaft driven just like the Volt.
Except we are the ones getting the SHAFT.


47 posted on 02/07/2012 2:55:32 PM PST by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: Bigh4u2

oops..

Should read ‘1946’... :)


48 posted on 02/07/2012 2:55:40 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: adorno

You have capsulized Agenda 21 as put forth by the UN & embraced by libturds.


49 posted on 02/07/2012 2:59:13 PM PST by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: napscoordinator
Oh, like this?

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50 posted on 02/07/2012 3:00:53 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: SkyDancer

I will see your Tandy and raise you a Wang.

Trash 80s of the world, untie! ;>


51 posted on 02/07/2012 3:06:03 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: adorno

I want to see one of the electric vehicles make it through a night and start...in International Falls, MN. Or Prudhoe Bay.


52 posted on 02/07/2012 3:08:13 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Zakeet

When these piles of junk can go 400+ miles on a charge and all the gas stations have a charge station (several of them) and the car can be recharged in the same time it would take to fuel a regular car, then I might, might, consider buying one. Used.


53 posted on 02/07/2012 3:08:26 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: GSP.FAN; napscoordinator

Not only were your tax dollars wasted on this, but you sound like they had the same technology for testing and manufacturing available “when the airplane was invented” as we have today. Surely they should be able to tell that a car like the Volt is NOT going to be successful before putting so much of our money into building and promoting them.


54 posted on 02/07/2012 3:08:34 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: napscoordinator
I am not sure I understand why FREEPERS are making fun of automobiles that may one day be a great thing.

It might have to do with the fact that we're involuntary investors in the manufacturer.

55 posted on 02/07/2012 3:11:28 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Travis McGee

I agree with you that the government should not be involved in industry and technological developments. I also agree with you that gasoline has a far greater capacity to store energy than electicity, at our current technological development.

But I don’t think that will always be the case, because electrons take far less space than carbon molecules. I think, in time, electricity will be the eventual winner between the two. It’s just a matter of time before we find the proper storage medium for electricity.

Government involvement should not be involved. Look where the private space enterprises are, without government help. They’ve been able to do much more then NASA, in about the same time period.


56 posted on 02/07/2012 3:11:59 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: napscoordinator
but doesn’t everything have problems when they first start

Sure, but we don't subsidize them with our tax dollars.

And yes, electric cars were being built even prior to 1900 [Google "electric cars 1900" and look at the hundreds of images] and up till at least World War I. They never gained popularity because -- are you ready for it -- the batteries couldn't provide enough range.

In the nineties, GM had an experimental electric car project which saw hundreds of them put on the streets. It was such a failure that GM took them all back and destroyed them.

I'm actually pretty interested in electric car development, I just don't want to invest in it by force and see the president jawboning companies to build them.

57 posted on 02/07/2012 3:13:46 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From the Detroit Electric Cars flyer:

Do you know that only 15% of the oil wells produce any gasoline at all, and that after a certain time the supply will be exhausted?

LOL. Peak oil gloom and doom a hundred years ago.

58 posted on 02/07/2012 3:15:09 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: Zakeet

59 posted on 02/07/2012 3:16:53 PM PST by ILS21R (Never give up.)
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To: combat_boots
I will see your Tandy and raise you a Wang

A quick peek at some fine eye Tandy raises my Wang every time.

60 posted on 02/07/2012 3:23:29 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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