It were to be wished, that we had some law adduced, more precisely defining the qualities of acitizen or an alien; particular laws of this kind have obtained in some of the States; if such a law existed in South Carolina, it might have prevented this question from ever coming before us; but since this has not been the case, let us settle some general principle before we proceed to the presumptive proof arising from public measures under the law, which tend to give support to the inference drawn from such principles.It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general, place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will, therefore, be unnecessary to investigate any other. Mr. SMITH founds his claim upon his birthright; his ancestors were among the first settlers of that, colony.”
James Madison, in a speech from the floor of Congress, 22 May 1789.
Absolutely - I have quoted this for DL and others many times. They just don’t want to accept it.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/79655719/James-Madison-on-Contested-Election-Citizenship-And-Birthright-22-May-1789-House-of-Representatives
And this is why I absolutely cannot stand YOU! Here you are, like a dog with a dead bird in it's mouth, wanting to come and drop it in your masters lap as though it were a present, all the while oblivious to the fact that it has been beaten to death, and he doesn't need it.
There is not a single person arguing this issue on this thread who is not aware of this cite, yet you come into this discussion with your pathetic little arguments and pretend to know what you are talking about. You have come to a gun fight with a squirt gun! Everyone else in this thread is leagues ahead of you in both knowledge and wisdom. Sometime Lurker is VERY WELL Familiar with James Madison's defense of William Smith.
Again, YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS THREAD THAT IS OBLIVIOUS TO THE FACT THAT EVERYBODY ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT THIS!
You are like the little child that brings a checkers game to a Chess tournament and wonders why no one wants to play with you. You make up for in persistence and LOUDNESS what you lack in knowledge and understanding. Your opinion is not worthy of consideration by anyone in this forum. SHUT UP! GROW UP! Come back when you are more knowledgeable and less stupid.
Sometime Lurker, I'm glad this guy is on your side. Were he on mine, I would have to frag him myself. He is like YOUR version of Orly Taitz!