Posted on 02/06/2012 4:32:19 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
Perhaps the only true statement in this piece.
It is sick what he did. It is almost like an Alinsky trick. The courts are corrupt.
The “Won” can’t be touched it is inscribed on the ark /s
Anyone running a count on how many “Judge (insert name here) is a cowardly traitor” threads there are following yet another birther courtroom defeat?
The American Media is one big fraud. A Fifth Column that exists to subvert the US Constitution, overthrow traditional institutions founded on God's Law, and to support Democrats and their marxist allies.
When Pravda calls you a traitor for not sticking to American principles and the Constitution, how low can you go?
I felt bad for Orly Taitz because she got this case for a sitting judge to make a decision, and she didn’t get it.
“It is an established maxim, received by all political writers that every person owes a natural allegiance to the government of that country in which he is born. Allegiance is defined to be a tie, that binds the subject to the state, and in consequence of his obedience, he is entitled to protection… The children of aliens, born in this state, are considered as natural born subjects, and have the same rights with the rest of the citizens.”
Zephaniah Swift, A system of the laws of the state of Connecticut: in six books, Volumes 1-2 of A System of the Laws of the State of Connecticut: In Six Book, pg. 163,167 (1795)
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_2_2s6.html
The following is an enormous list of legal citations, from Obama operatives, but you need to know what you are up against:
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/natural-born-quotes/
James Madison, The Founders’ Constitution Volume 2, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 2,
Madison:
It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/79655719/James-Madison-on-Contested-Election-Citizenship-And-Birthright-22-May-1789-House-of-Representatives
The story pretty much state the way I feel about Judge Malahi, but of course there are it’s detractors who believe Obama is the messiah.
I’ll believe this when it’s legitimately authenticated inside America.
I can't even keep track of the courtroom defeats.
More birther blather.
Natural born citizen has long been recognized as the US equivalent of ‘natural born subject’ - a phrase from English common law that included the children of aliens. In fact, some early state legislatures used the phrases interchangeably for years after the Constitution.
The Wong Kim Ark decision in the late 1800s discussed it in detail, and said:
“It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.
III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html
Notice the rule that applied to natural born subjects continued to prevail in the US after independence, and UNDER the US Constitution.
In truth, until birthers figure out how to answer the WKA decision, they will continue to be demolished in court - as they have been in every single case. Even when the other side doesn’t bother to show up...
No exact count, but I think there were several for Judge Clay Land, Judge David O. Carter, and Judge Royce C. Lamberth.
The fascinating thing to me is the Lucy and the football aspect. It seems every freeper lawyer who comments on this tells the NBC'ers the same thing - born in the US (usual diplomatic exceptions) has been held by the courts to mean natural born, and no court will find otherwise now just because some people want a shortcut to the hard work wining the 2012 election. Why they think a judge will find a different outcome this time is beyond me. And it just makes people look like the tin foil hat brigade to accuse every judge of treason for a judgment that was completely predictable given the plaintiffs entered the Hawaii COLB into evidence and stipulated 0bama was born in Hawaii.
I think the problem is that people are going to Pravda to find confirmation for their twisted beliefs.
You are helping Obama, not hurting him.
Damn right. nobama walked all over him. What a wimp. My dog has more guts than this judge.
James Madison, on May 22, 1789, addressed the issues of a Contested Election, andcitizenship and birthright, in the House of Representatives.
THAT ,is totally irrelevant to the issue of Article 2 Clause 5.
People at the time of adoption of the Constitution were given natural born status and that was what Madison was talking about in specific regards to William Smith and his election to the SC State House, NOT President of the USA:
” ... a Citizen of the United States at the time of Adoption of this Constitution...”
* William Smith and his election from SC to the House, NOT President of the USA:
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