Posted on 02/05/2012 6:59:20 PM PST by mnehring
Edited on 02/05/2012 7:06:55 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
During an appearance on CNN’s Piers Morgan, GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul was asked whether as a man with daughters and granddaughters, Rep. Paul (R-TX) thinks that abortion is warranted if a woman has been impregnated by a rapist.
“If it’s an honest rape,” Paul replied, “that individual should go immediately to the emergency room, I would give them a shot of estrogen.” He claimed, however, that if a woman is “seven months pregnant” and says that she was raped, “It’s a little bit of a different story.” Source
Finally someone admits that they WOULD enslave/imprison a woman for the crime of having been raped.
You bet your sweet ass. And after 9 months, instead of being a murderess, the woman would know she has let God work through her, and that no matter how difficult those months were, she has let life and love come from pain. She chose the difficult, but ultimately rewarding path and did not succumb to the evil allure of convenience.
You argue like a teenager.
So you need to know who the criminal IS prior to knowing if there was a crime comitted? Have you EVER worked in Law Enforcement?
Some of the posts on this threading are astounding.
“You bet your sweet ass.”
You argue like a teenager.
“And after 9 months, instead of being a murderess,”
So rape victims who take a “Morning after pill” in the ER once a rape has been medically confirmed belongs in prison for the rest of their days. Okay......
“the woman would know she has let God work through her,”
What if she is an atheist? What if she believes, but not in your God? Doesn’t matter to you does it?
“She chose the difficult, but ultimately rewarding path and did not succumb to the evil allure of convenience.”
The rape victim that you would imprison for the crime of having been raped, “CHOSE?” Really?
“You argue like a teenager.”
It’s cute that you think this rises to the level of an argument.
No, it doesn't because my views on the right to life were formed when I was a libertarian, and stand up to logical scrutiny even without any strictly theological underpinning.
The rape victim that you would imprison for the crime of having been raped, “CHOSE?” Really?
I thought "imprison" was your silly trope.
I would simply make abortion illegal in any circumstance; what any woman chose to do then would be her responsibility.
It’s cute that you think this rises to the level of an argument.
You're right, I 've heard no argument from you, just emoting.
The rape victim that you would imprison for the crime of having been raped, “CHOSE?” Really?
I thought “imprison” was your silly trope.
Post 141.....you’re not even making this hard to do.
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I haven't seen any post on this thread suggesting that a woman should be enslaved or imprisoned for having been raped.
Killing a baby is something else entirely.
“I haven’t seen any post on this thread suggesting that a woman should be enslaved or imprisoned for having been raped.”
ping to 112 and 142.
Do what?
Do you know what trope means?
If you mean literally imprison a rape victim, of course not. Why would I?
Imho, you’ve missed the point. Pregnancy is not enslavement. A woman does not choose to be raped, but if she chooses abortion, that is murder.
For the benefit of any observers: I believe in, follow, and support the Catholic Church's doctrine regarding abortion.
I also support our country's concept of due process, as evinced by our jurisprudence.
I also never fail to be amazed by the ridiculous lengths some will go to to rationalize that which they cannot defend with reason.
Well how else are you going to guarantee that she doesn’t take a morning after pill? Or as “Doctor” Paul puts it....a shot of estrogen?
Post 142;
Grunthor - Finally someone admits that they WOULD enslave/imprison a woman for the crime of having been raped.
Trailerpark - You bet your sweet ass.
Forced pregnancy is not enslavement?
No.
When did it become encumbent upon me to "guarantee" anything?
What in the hell are you talking about?
I also support our country's concept of due process, as evinced by our jurisprudence.
I also never fail to be amazed by the ridiculous lengths some will go to to rationalize that which they cannot defend with reason.
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I agree.
LOL, I assumed you were sane and speaking figuratively.
I am tired of posting to this thread. Notice that I have never strongly advocated a rape exception, phrasing only tepid support for one under present circumstances. But I understand the reasoning those who strongly support such an exception use and explained it. In all difficult moral circumstances neither we nor the state partake of divine omniscience and must make what the Latins call “prudential judgements”. Arguing about the procedural niceties of a hypothetical well-controlled rape exception is not that interesting to me at this point: if a bill containing such a proposal is actually on the floor of a legislature and we have a chance to influence the amendment process, ping me then.
We would all do better to pray fervently that a great awakening would so restore Christian sensibilities to our nation so that my now equally hypothetical society in which rape victims are given moral support, encouragement and even adulation as near-martyrs for carrying a child engendered by rape to term would become a reality. In the meantime, in the world as it now exists, I will what I wrote before: I would be content with a general ban on abortion with a rape-and-incest exception to go along with a life-of-the-mother exception.
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