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One Test Left for Romney: The Midwest (Santorum bigger threat than Gingrich)
New York Times ^ | February 5, 2012 | Nate Silver

Posted on 02/05/2012 12:55:11 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

Instead, if Mr. Romney loses the nomination, it is likely to be because of the one region that has yet to give him a victory: the Midwest.

A contiguous block of eight swing states containing 95 electoral votes — Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — determine the winners and losers in most presidential elections. When at least six or seven of these states are added to the state bases of the Democratic or Republican candidate, he or she is all but guaranteed a victory. (Barack Obama won seven of them in 2008). Only when they are about evenly divided, as in 2000 or 2004, do swing states in other parts of the country — like Nevada or New Hampshire or Florida — tend to make much difference.

Mr. Romney lost Iowa to Rick Santorum, albeit by about the narrowest possible margin. He will have two more opportunities to win a Midwestern state on Tuesday, when Minnesota has its caucuses and Missouri holds a primary. (The Missouri primary does not matter for delegate selection: the state will hold a separate caucus for that purpose in March.)

Mr. Romney could be vulnerable in both states. A survey released on Sunday by Public Policy Polling, which has had fairly accurate results so far in the primary season, had Minnesota as a toss-up between Mr. Romney and Mr. Santorum, with Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul not far behind.

And in Missouri, where Mr. Gingrich is not on the ballot for the “beauty contest” primary, it had Mr. Santorum ahead of Mr. Romney, 45 percent to 34 percent.

Imagine that Mr. Romney were to lose both states. That would make him zero for three in the nation’s most important swing region. It would raise questions about his performance in Ohio,

(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: newt; romney; santorum4romney
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1 posted on 02/05/2012 12:55:16 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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2 posted on 02/05/2012 12:56:30 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; LdSentinal; Norman Bates; Sun; ...

There is still time to stop Romney. One candidate alone isn’t likely to be enough, but perhaps Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul combined can get enough delegates to prevent Romney from winning a majority of delegates at the convention.


3 posted on 02/05/2012 12:58:18 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Romney’s support base in Michigan is going the way of the dinosaurs and his claim to fame as a Michigan native is wearing pretty thin after living elsewhere for a few decades.


4 posted on 02/05/2012 1:00:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Clintonfatigued
The media is once again picking our nominee.

Like JimR says, resist it. We can win with Newt if the country is angry enough to want a real change. People must get out of their comfort zones and not to be allowed this spoon feeding of the lies.

5 posted on 02/05/2012 1:02:54 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Clintonfatigued

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/mn/minnesota_republican_presidential_primary-1747.html


6 posted on 02/05/2012 1:03:47 PM PST by entropy12 (Socialism has failed everywhere tried. It breeds mediocrity, corruption, nepotism & poverty for all)
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To: cripplecreek
Name recognition will still be a biggie, and we'll see if Mitt's "electability" meme is still working at the end of the month.

Up here (not sure about your part of the state), there have been a lot of good radio ads against Mitt, perhaps they will be effective by the time the primary hits us.

7 posted on 02/05/2012 1:04:00 PM PST by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yeah, I can see Illinois, Ohio, Indiana etc going for Moonman Newt.


8 posted on 02/05/2012 1:04:54 PM PST by Krankor (It's time you started thinking inside your head, that you should you stand up and fight.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Not counting Floriduh!...has Romney won a “real” southern state yet?

I don’t see Mitt doing well in Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee or Texas.


9 posted on 02/05/2012 1:05:07 PM PST by proudpapa
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To: Clintonfatigued
There is still time to stop Romney. One candidate alone isn’t likely to be enough, but perhaps Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul combined can get enough delegates to prevent Romney from winning a majority of delegates at the convention.

That's our best bet. If any of you know someone in the Santorum campaign, put a bug in their ear. They need to stop Romney now or there won't be any contest.

10 posted on 02/05/2012 1:07:48 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Clintonfatigued

While Santorum does not impress me as a limited government conservative, he is more acceptable than Newt.


11 posted on 02/05/2012 1:08:47 PM PST by rob777
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To: Clintonfatigued
It would seem w/Santorum’s past history of pro-union voting in PA (voted against right to work) he should do well w/the “squishy” moderates/conservative Democrats.

As best I can tell, he's only really strongly conservative about “right to life” issues; although I am willing to listen if his supporters can give me a different “take” on his stand on issues.

12 posted on 02/05/2012 1:10:28 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Clintonfatigued

The NYT wants Santorum in this thing to divide up the votes.


13 posted on 02/05/2012 1:10:52 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

Many Santorum supporters dislike Gingrich as much as they dislike Romney. Santorum’s exit would not automatically help Gingrich.


14 posted on 02/05/2012 1:13:34 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Christie at the beach
"We can win with Newt if the country is angry enough to want a real change."


Sorry, but I do not see the nomination of Newt as a win for conservatism. At this point I am more focused on Congressional and local races. I refuse to line up behind Newt just because I find Romney unappealing.
15 posted on 02/05/2012 1:14:29 PM PST by rob777
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To: rob777
While Santorum does not impress me as a limited government conservative, he is more acceptable than Newt.

I am having a hard time convincing my wife and my mom to vote for Newt if he gets the nomination. Why is he so unliked by women?

16 posted on 02/05/2012 1:17:59 PM PST by Arkady Orinko ("Hell is other people" - Jean-Paul Sartre)
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“Why is he so unliked by women?”

His abrasive manner combined with his marital history.


17 posted on 02/05/2012 1:24:27 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Mitt is not liked at all here.Newt and Santorum bot have a very good chance of taking Ohio though I think Newt has a better chance.


18 posted on 02/05/2012 1:27:45 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; LdSentinal; Norman Bates; Sun; ...

“Imagine, moreover, that Mr. Santorum wins both Minnesota and Missouri. That could revive his campaign, especially given that he also took Iowa.

Mr. Santorum is, in many ways, a more dangerous opponent for Mr. Romney than Mr. Gingrich at this point. He has run a more disciplined campaign than the former House speaker, has less personal baggage and is less disliked by party leaders.

Mr. Santorum can also make a credible claim to challenging Mr. Romney on electability. Mr. Santorum’s current unfavorable rating among all voters is 11 points lower than Mr. Romney’s, 36 percent versus 47 percent. Their favorable ratings are roughly equal: 30 percent for Mr. Santorum to 29 percent for Mr. Romney.”


19 posted on 02/05/2012 1:28:10 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Santorum makes so much more sense than Gingrich as the man for conservatives to back. Newt has tons of baggage both personal and political. He acts like a conservative only when it suits his purposes. Newt is irrational and you know he's going to implode. He always does; the only question is when.
20 posted on 02/05/2012 1:29:16 PM PST by bwc2221
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