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1 posted on 02/03/2012 7:49:42 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

the only thing the libs are conservative about is the unemployment true numbers.


2 posted on 02/03/2012 7:52:04 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: WilliamIII

obviously the numbers are lies. duh.

There are bigger issues out there though. Including social issues that Paul doesn’t care about.


3 posted on 02/03/2012 8:03:41 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: WilliamIII

The ‘headline’ UE number is proof that you can do any damn thing you want with statistics in order to make them show what you want them to.

Much of the basis that makes our economy today is based on fraud, both private and public.


4 posted on 02/03/2012 8:10:15 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: WilliamIII
"More important if you admit the truth," Paul said about the latest unemployment numbers. "We quit counting people."

Precisely true.

The number of unemployed people declined to 12.8 million people in January, according to the Labor Department, but that number only includes people actively looking for work.

No, it only includes people who are on unemployment. If your benefits have run out, you aren't counted whether or not you are looking. If you just graduated from school and you can't find work, you don't qualify for unemployment and aren't counted. If you never filed for unemployment because you were living on your own savings, you aren't counted.

The whole "no longer looking for work" category is a dodge that allows them to hide the magnitude of the unemployment problem.

5 posted on 02/03/2012 8:18:30 PM PST by marron
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Mr. Paul, where have you been hiding over the past 5 years? Under a giant boulder on an isolated island located in the South China Sea?


6 posted on 02/03/2012 8:18:30 PM PST by devattel
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To: WilliamIII

So, Paul is saying not 8.3% without adequate employment but 22.6%.

I’d bet its closer to 30% than it is 22.


7 posted on 02/03/2012 8:19:49 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: WilliamIII

Still, one must confess that the voters can understand 8.3 percent unemployment but not too much other information that confuses them.


12 posted on 02/03/2012 8:43:40 PM PST by Theodore R. (I have a feeling that our little Republican primary voters will again disappoint us.)
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To: WilliamIII

The fact the unemployment numbers have been dropping due to significant jumps in the number of people being counted as being in the labor market should be the story making all of the headlines - not that a candidate ‘says’ that it is. Instead, the press runs with story after story that the unemployment numbers have been falling due to a “surge” in hiring which does not exist.


15 posted on 02/03/2012 11:05:28 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: WilliamIII
This is actually how it works folks.

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Bud Abbot and Lou Costello were one of the most
popular comedy teams of the 1940's and 1950's.
 
 
COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America .

ABBOTT: Good subject. Terrible times. It's about 9%.

COSTELLO: That many people are out of work?

ABBOTT: No, that's 16%.

COSTELLO: You just said 9%.

ABBOTT: 9% Unemployed.

COSTELLO: Right 9% out of work.

ABBOTT: No, that's 16%.

COSTELLO: Okay, so it's 16% unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, that's 9%...

COSTELLO: WAIT A MINUTE. Is it 9% or 16%?

ABBOTT: 9% are unemployed. 16% are out of work.

COSTELLO: If you are out of work you are unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, you can't count the "Out of Work" as the unemployed.  You have to look for work to be unemployed.

COSTELLO: But ... they are out of work!

ABBOTT: No, you miss my point.

COSTELLO: What point?

ABBOTT: Someone who doesn't look for work, can't be counted with those who look for work. It wouldn't be fair.

COSTELLO: To who?

ABBOTT: The unemployed.

COSTELLO: But they are ALL out of work.

ABBOTT: No, the unemployed are actively looking for work... Those who are out of work stopped looking. They gave up. And, if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of the unemployed.

COSTELLO: So if you're off the unemployment rolls, that would count as less unemployment?

ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!

COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?

ABBOTT: Absolutely it goes down. That's how you get to 9%. Otherwise it would be 16%. You don't want to read about 16% unemployment do ya?

COSTELLO: That would be frightening.

ABBOTT: Absolutely.

COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means they're two  ways to bring down the unemployment number?

ABBOTT: Two ways is correct.

COSTELLO: Unemployment can go down if someone gets a job?

ABBOTT: Correct.

COSTELLO: And unemployment can also go down if you stop looking for a job?

ABBOTT: Bingo.

COSTELLO: So there are two ways to bring unemployment down, and the easier of the two is to just stop looking for work.

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like an economist.

COSTELLO: I don't even know what the hell I just said!


And now you know why Obama's unemployment figures are improving!


17 posted on 02/04/2012 12:56:09 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: WilliamIII
This Democrat Obama has borrowed 5 trillion dollars, mostly from China. And yet not a single net job has been created. In fact 15 million jobs have been lost . As evidence see that 43% of Americans are on food stamps. The U.S. is living on debt and every single day we lose more manufacturing jobs to China.

Any one in the liberal mainstream media really think that this borrowing trillions per year, losing manufacturing, and exploding debt is sustainable? No way :The U.S.A is headed toward collapse just like Greece is only worse.And it is all Obama's fault. We post the truth on the Internet so Obama is trying to censor the Internet and destroy it with the international agreement ACTA.

23 posted on 02/04/2012 5:44:14 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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