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To: ejonesie22

reason is not the be all, end all. What does reason tell you about Christ’s resurrection? That it couldn’t happen, but yet it did. That He could not effect miracles. He did that, too.


103 posted on 02/03/2012 1:08:29 PM PST by san pancho
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To: san pancho
Is that what you truly think, that reason must lead to the resurrection being impossible, so you accept it absent reason? Wow, you really are uneducated on the Bible and what faith really is. How many times did Jesus refer to 'those that have (spiritual) eyes, let them see'?

Here's a clue. A faithful person reads the Old and New Testament and involves his/her reason at all turns. A real Christian's reason is edified by his or her God's Spirit generated faith. It is part of what to be born again and become a new creation is all about.

The Christian reader comes upon a scene as depicted in Daniel Chapter Five and since this person believes God, the scene is a telling of real events ... and yet a hand, just a hand, not a body just a hand, appeared in the King of Babylon's palace party central and wrote on a wall in plain view of the king and his guests!

IF you are a person who believes God, the scene is an eye witness account. On the other hand, if you are a Mormon who wants to excuse lies and deception and false prophecies and the sexual predation of Joseph Smith, you will tell a faithful person seeking to lead you out of the moronISM darkness that 'reason dictates the scene cannot be real'.

It really would behoove you to learn the contrast between reason edified by faith in God's Promises and just reason edified by the opinions of others. Did you know that 'Abraham believed God, and it was counted for him righteousness' is a real assertion in the Bible? And do you know what Abraham believed and did which proved his belief? Look it up, the reality may surprise you. [ Here's a hint: Abraham proved he innately believed God by what he said to those accompanying him and his son on that trip to the mountain for the sacrifice. ]

107 posted on 02/03/2012 1:33:41 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: san pancho

No, actually reason does tell me it happened because of his word and his power and the things that are observable that are also part of God’s world and Word.


109 posted on 02/03/2012 1:50:57 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: san pancho

No, actually reason does tell me it happened because of his word and his power and the things that are observable that are also part of God’s world and Word.


110 posted on 02/03/2012 1:51:09 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: san pancho
reason is not the be all, end all.

 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.
 
 

Whatever HAPPENED to Emma???
 
Eliza was a devout Mormon.
At age 38, she became Joseph Smith's 14th plural wife (in addition to Smith's lawful wife, Emma).
In 1842, after learning Eliza was pregnant, Emma Smith beat Eliza with a broomstick and
knocked her down a flight of stairs, causing Eliza to miscarry Smith's baby.
 
Wow!!
 
I guess ol' Emma got VAPORIZED by GOD!!!
 
We know that multiply him thing sure didn't work out!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Joseph_Smith,_Jr.

139 posted on 02/03/2012 2:32:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: san pancho
"reason is not the be all, end all."

And neither is BLIND faith when presented with factual proof of not only contradictions of said faith, but of numerous FALSE prophets within said faith. JS and BY were FALSE prophets. Why is that ignored? Why is it that the Bible, that warns of wolves in sheep's clothing is ignored? Because those passages are in ERROR??

The BoM has been proven time and time again, thousands of times, to be in error.

Mormonism engages in rituals that are straight out of paganism and directly contravene not only the Bible, which all mormons "suspect" to be in error, but your own BoM.

The mormon christ is a vengeful and murderous, OT style of judge. The Biblical Christ is a redeemer filled with grace and love. Which is it pancho? Which Christ do you follow?

184 posted on 02/04/2012 3:01:20 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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