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In July 1996, Mitt Romney helped locate the missing teenage daughter of a partner at Bain Capital.
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Posted on 02/02/2012 4:17:25 PM PST by fred4prez

"In July 1996, the 14-year-old daughter of Robert Gay, a partner at Bain Capital, had disappeared," the story reads. "She had attended a rave party in New York City and gotten high on ecstasy. Three days later, her distraught father had no idea where she was. Romney took immediate action. He closed down the entire firm and asked all 30 partners and employees to fly to New York to help find Gay’s daughter. Romney set up a command center at the LaGuardia Marriott and hired a private detective firm to assist with the search. He established a toll-free number for tips, coordinating the effort with the NYPD, and went through his Rolodex and called everyone Bain did business with in New York and asked them to help find his friend’s missing daughter. Romney’s accountants at Price Waterhouse Cooper put up posters on street poles, while cashiers at a pharmacy owned by Bain put fliers in the bag of every shopper. Romney and the other Bain employees scoured every part of New York and talked with everyone they could – prostitutes, drug addicts – anyone.

"That day, their hunt made the evening news, which featured photos of the girl and the Bain employees searching for her. As a result, a teenage boy phoned in, asked if there was a reward, and then hung up abruptly. The NYPD traced the call to a home in New Jersey, where they found the girl in the basement, shivering and experiencing withdrawal symptoms from a massive ecstasy dose. Doctors later said the girl might not have survived another day. Romney’s former partner credits Mitt Romney with saving his daughter’s life, saying, ‘It was the most amazing thing, and I’ll never forget this to the day I die.’

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To: ansel12

They certainly are heretics.
They claim to be Christian but have unsound doctrines - even very unsound doctrines, and they use both the Christian scripture and the concepts threin. Thats a heretic.

Back in the sixteenth century we would have been prosecuting them as heretics, open and shut case.

Are they not Christian ? I doubt you will find such a blanket statement from the Catholic church, as Christian is both a theological concept and a linguistic one. All we have here is a statement saying (or broadly implying) that they are very heretical.


301 posted on 02/03/2012 1:02:26 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya
Are they not Christian ? I doubt you will find such a blanket statement from the Catholic church,

Christians cannot be baptized twice, your (claimed) church is very clear on that, your church requires every baptized Mormon, to become baptized into Christianity.

(Unless of course he was a Mormon convert who was previously baptized as a Catholic or Protestant.)

302 posted on 02/03/2012 1:09:39 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: svcw

“You defend mormonISM and call Christians heretics”

I defend the Mormons as a religious group to be tolerated in the public and political sphere as all others are in the US.

I call SOME Christians heretics, in the eyes of the Catholic church, as they have always been held to be.

Christians - superset
Catholic - subset
heretics = Christians - Catholics

My point, and I really don’t understand why this is so hard to put across, is that if we, Catholics, Protestants, etc., can get along, EVEN with this history of conflict (religious wars and the burning of heretics), why must we make an exception for Mormons ?

“You pimp Romney and call people who do not support him anti-mormon”

I don’t support Romney. I just object to the extreme speech against him, it does none of us any good. It certainly doesn’t even help keep him from the nomination, as his most bitter opponents will end up sounding like cranks.

SOME opponents of Romney do so because he is a Mormon (and there are many posts here in evidence), as for whatever reasons they are prejudiced against Mormons. This also is very unsound, as it is both illogical and imprudent.

“You say you will support Romney over BHO even thought they are the same.”

They are not the same. This is more of the poisonous hyperbole that has been going around that is very unhealthy for all of us. We have an election to win, an election that is critical beyond measure, the consequences of failing in this case will be disastrous. This talk does not help.

“You say you are Catholic yet...”

And what have I said that is not Catholic ?


303 posted on 02/03/2012 1:19:01 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya
And what have I said that is not Catholic ?

You keep fighting to spread the false claim that Mormons are Christian, you insult and mock your church and Pope with lies.

You evade and ignore direct Catholic rebuttals to your anti-Catholic postings in service to pushing the lie that Mormonism is Christian, and accepted by the Catholic church as such.

304 posted on 02/03/2012 1:28:22 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

“You keep fighting to spread the false claim that Mormons are Christian, you insult and mock your church and Pope with lies.”

There is no doctrine that says that I cannot say that Mormons are Christian. That is NOT grounds for an excommunication !

“You evade and ignore direct Catholic rebuttals to your anti-Catholic postings in service to pushing the lie that Mormonism is Christian, and accepted by the Catholic church as such.”

As above - and none of these say I cannot refer to Mormons as Christian. You can imply what you want based on such statements, but nobody in the church is going to say “Mormons are not Christian, and you can’t say that”.
And where are my postings anti-Catholic ?

The Catholic church is CATHOLIC - outside of doctrine we can have our own opinions.


305 posted on 02/03/2012 1:35:28 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Raider Sam
Did they find the girl? Yes. Did he use his resources? Yes. Are you so afraid of Romney that you have to tarnish this good deed? Yes.

Did the story completely overblow Romney's role and accomplishments? Yes. Was most of the story about Romney's role a lie? Yes. Are you unwilling to admit that? Yes.

306 posted on 02/03/2012 1:36:32 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: cynwoody
The job of a CEO is to make things happen, especially when there is an unexpected crisis. The fact that this CEO's name didn't appear in a contemporaneous account is of no significance.

No, but the fact that he didn't individually do all of the things that the article says he did is of significance. Attributing actions to him, individually, that were taken by a group, is a lie. The fact that his campaign or supporters now feel they have to lie, and to inflate Romney's role, is of significance.

I suppose you still believe that Mitt Romney personally called every party Bain did business with in New York.

So you want to believe a puff piece written today to boost Romney's presidential aura more than a contemporaneous newspaper article (the one you called to everyone's attention earlier in this thread as proof that this event happened, by the way; are you now backing away from *your* newspaper article when it doesn't support the most precious facts of the SuperRomney fairy tale?).

By the way, it was a good thing that Romney *and all of the other people at Bain* did.

307 posted on 02/03/2012 1:42:53 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Raider Sam

The issue:
Romney helped in the search in some fashion - yes.
The issue:
was Romney’s roll enhanced - yes.


308 posted on 02/03/2012 1:45:01 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: buwaya
There is no doctrine that says that I cannot say that Mormons are Christian. That is NOT grounds for an excommunication !

Lol, it looks like the wheels are coming off your little, anti-Catholic clown car.

What does post 296 tell you? Pope John Paul II says that Mormons are not Christians.

309 posted on 02/03/2012 1:51:58 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Scoutmaster
Attributing actions to him, individually, that were taken by a group, is a lie. The fact that his campaign or supporters now feel they have to lie, and to inflate Romney's role, is of significance.

Splitting such hairs only serves to boost support for Romney by causing folks to dig into the story and find the original accounts, which do not need enhancement.

I suppose you still believe that Mitt Romney personally called every party Bain did business with in New York.

Matters every bit as much as whether JFK ever walked on the moon.

So you want to believe a puff piece written today to boost Romney's presidential aura more than a contemporaneous newspaper article (the one you called to everyone's attention earlier in this thread as proof that this event happened, by the way; are you now backing away from *your* newspaper article when it doesn't support the most precious facts of the SuperRomney fairy tale?).

*My* article? LOL! I just needed a link to debunk a specious assertion, so I grabbed the first one I found.

311 posted on 02/03/2012 2:30:41 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: First Authority
I want to say that I forgot Romney did this. Sort of Perotesque, would you say? What he did, and there is no doubt he did, and he makes no claims for his past actions as being heroic, is the sign of a genuine man of honor,

I hope you are joking, Perot's act was a commando operation behind enemy lines, led by one of the most famous commandos in American history.

Mitt's was a rich Mormon Bishop, doing a favor for another rich, high ranking Mormon, to find his runaway teen daughter in New York city.

Do you think that high ranking Mormon's girl is the only teen of all of Mitt's relationships to have run away for a short time?

Don't turn this into heroism, and an Iranian type commando operation, this is every day stuff except on a rich, powerful, Mormon scale, and including the mandatory Romney publicity.

and he makes no claims for his past actions as being heroic, is the sign of a genuine man of honor

You mean that he didn't make a campaign commercial to promote this? He most certainly did, for his 2007 campaign.

312 posted on 02/03/2012 2:31:38 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: First Authority

How do you say Romney values “child” or has a conscience when he supports abortion?
How do you say Romney is not using this event for personal gain when Robert Gay made commercials (with Romney’s support) in 2008 and will probably do so again?
Did the event happen - yes.
Was Romney involved in some fashion - yes.
Has Romney’s involvement been enhanced - yes.


313 posted on 02/03/2012 2:32:03 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: svcw

2007


314 posted on 02/03/2012 2:35:18 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: First Authority; ansel12; Jim Robinson
Think about that folks when you either not vote or vote for some third party candidate in the presidential election. You will have made sure Obama will continue to be president, kinda like cutting off your nose to spite your face. No, I believe you will vote for Mitt Romney, just as you did for the last GOP candidate, flawed too as very liberal, because you value Mitt's values for child, spouse, family, community, and country. His values are without question. Can't say the same for Obama, can you?

How about Newt? Do you like a man who has made his living as an influence peddler? Newt is part of the problem. Agreed?

How can any right thinking Christian, conservative or tea party supporter justify voting for Romney?

Free Republic is all in for Newt. He's the Reagan Republican in this race.

IBTZ

316 posted on 02/03/2012 2:49:40 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Raider Sam
Are you so afraid of in love with Romney that you have to tarnish embellish this good deed?
317 posted on 02/03/2012 2:53:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: First Authority

Teens running away for three days is a common occurrence in middle and lower income families, Romney helped one powerful, rich, fellow Mormon, has Romney ever duplicated that nice helpful act for his working class, non-Mormon employees?

Why are you so insistent that we vote for Romney, this is the primary, not the general election.

Don’t vote for socialist, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual agenda, anti-Reagan, anti-conservative scum, vote for Newt Gingrich.


318 posted on 02/03/2012 2:54:15 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: buwaya
We get along, more or less, why shouldn’t we get along with Mormons ?

I see you are responding to #270.

The 'reason' is found in #273.

319 posted on 02/03/2012 2:55:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: buwaya
C and P have a long and troubled history, If we can get over that then we can and should get over our disagreements with M.

I guess you can explain why SO many catholics end up trapped in MORMONism.

320 posted on 02/03/2012 2:56:43 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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