I think you are worrying a bit too much, Elsie.
All the Mormons I know, (including me) are perfectly happy for you to practice your religion, and believe what you want. I think a Mormon in the White House (Romney or anyone else) would do absolutely nothing to infringe upon anyone’s religious liberty — and act to defend it.
Then recall your 50,000 shock troops on the front lines and renounce the HERESY that is MORMONism.
I, however, am NOT 'happy' to see MORMONs following a FALSE christ and a FALSE gospel into hell.
I will do what I can to STOP IT!!!
THINK all you want. You do NOT know how DECEIVED you are.
I am amazed Norm how little you know about the very foundation of mormonISM.
Norm, Elz said three things in post #222 (what you're responding to here) -- the third of which is:
A MORMON president would 'authenticate' MORMONism in the eys of many; thus insuring their eventual destruction.
That has nothing to do with "religious liberty" issues...and everything to do with "spiritual bondage" issues.
Pure and simple, it's almost as if the book of Galatians was God's anticipated book specifically written for Mormons! Why? Well, not only because Mormons are our legalists of this era, but just look at these Galatians verses:
Galatians 1:6-9: 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under Gods curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under Gods curse!
...know that a person is NOT justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and NOT by the works of the law, because by the works of the law NO ONE will be justified...21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing! (Gal. 2:16, 21)
1 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh? 4 Have you experienced so much in vainif it really was in vain? 5 So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your BELIEVING what you heard? 6 So also Abraham BELIEVED God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. 7 Understand, then, that those who have FAITH are children of Abraham. 8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles BY FAITH, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: All nations will be blessed through you. 9 So those who RELY ON FAITH are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith. 10 For ALL who RELY on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do EVERYTHING written in the Book of the Law. 11 Clearly NO ONE who RELIES on the law is justified before God, because the righteous will live BY FAITH. 12 The law is NOT based on faith; on the contrary, it says, The person who does these things will live by them. 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole. 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that BY FAITH we might RECEIVE the promise of the Spirit. (Gal. 3:1-14)
7 So you are NO LONGER a slave, but Gods child; and since you are his child, God has made you also an heir. 8 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods...we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman. 1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. (Gal. 4:7-8, 31, 5:1)
* 2 Nephi 25:23: ...ye are saved by grace, AFTER ALL YOU can DO." (2 Nephi 25:23)
* Helaman 12:24: "...may God grant, in his great fulness, that men might be brought unto repentance and good works, that they might be restored unto grace for grace, ACCORDING to their WORKS." (Helaman 12:24)
* Moroni 10:32: Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and IF ye shall deny yourselves of ALL ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, THEN is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God.
The Mormon teaching is clear above:
(1) Grace doesn't kick in for the Mormon UNTIL he's done "ALL" he can do... (2 Nephi 25:23) (All spiritually, relationally, physically, emotionally, intellectually, etc.)
(2) Grace is handed out in Mormonism tit-for-tat -- "according to works" (Helaman 12:24) This redefines the very word as a "free gift"
(3) In Mormonism, you have to FIRST deny yourself of ALL ungodliness -- not just some -- and ALSO love God with ALL your might, mind and strength -- and THEN God's grace kicks in (Moroni 10:32)
Utter hopelessness is this religious legalism of despair.
Are you withdrawing your 50,000 missionaries who are going around telling us that our 'religion' is apostate and of satan? Didn't think so.
You clearly separate us from mormonism - yet mormonism wants to corrupt our terminology and misrepresent themselves as Christian.
Andy, lying for the faith (MormonISM) is still lying. Perhaps you'd like to explain away for us the three quotes I offered to Jeff Head showing the blasphemy at the heart of this so called restored christianity? ... I didn't think so. Hard to repudiate such blasphemy isn't it, Normandy ... if you read the real God's Word.