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To: OrangeHoof

The current state-by-state winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes maximizes the incentive and opportunity for fraud. A very few people can change the national outcome by changing a small number of votes in one closely divided battleground state. With the current system all of a state’s electoral votes are awarded to the candidate who receives a bare plurality of the votes in each state. The sheer magnitude of the national popular vote number, compared to individual state vote totals, is much more robust against manipulation.

National Popular Vote would limit the benefits to be gained by fraud. One fraudulent vote would only win one vote in the return. In the current electoral system, one fraudulent vote could mean 55 electoral votes, or just enough electoral votes to win the presidency without having the most popular votes in the country.

Hendrik Hertzberg wrote: “To steal the closest popular-vote election in American history, you’d have to steal more than a hundred thousand votes . . .To steal the closest electoral-vote election in American history, you’d have to steal around 500 votes, all in one state. . . .

For a national popular vote election to be as easy to switch as 2000, it would have to be two hundred times closer than the 1960 election—and, in popular-vote terms, forty times closer than 2000 itself.

Which, I ask you, is an easier mark for vote-stealers, the status quo or N.P.V.[National Popular Vote]? Which offers thieves a better shot at success for a smaller effort?”


42 posted on 01/26/2012 9:51:49 AM PST by mvymvy
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To: mvymvy

That’s incredibly wrong and misguided.

The only reason Florida was the way it happened was because the rest of the states had already been decided. Were it a NATIONAL vote, then we would have had to recount ALL 50 states including ALL military and foreign votes at enormous cost to state and local governments. It would have been an invitation to national widespread vote fraud just as we saw in Palm Beach County where Democrats were trying to count spoiled ballots as votes for Gore while disenfranchising legitimate votes.

27 electoral votes only matter if the election is close enough for them to matter. A National vote means that one county clerk anywhere in America can manufacture billions of fraudulent votes to throw an election - and if you think the media will blow the whistle if it favors the Democrats, the party far more likely to commit massive fraud, you are totally blind. If you think there’s no fraud in Cook Country or Clark County or Angeles County, you’re a fool.

Yes, the electoral college can be rigged but it takes massive fraud in multiple swing states. With the national vote, it just takes one county.


45 posted on 01/26/2012 11:26:47 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: mvymvy

It would appear you are a mega pimp for NPV. But that’s okay. We can add you to the closet with all the other crazy uncles that post here on FR.


47 posted on 01/26/2012 1:40:32 PM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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