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To: takenoprisoner

I’m so totally for personal liberties, but given the threats of terrorism and using a 747 as a large fuel bomb to take out a building, what are you suggesting in place of our current Airport Security? Nothing?

Personally, losing some privacy/personal liberty in boarding flights doesn’t bother me as much as being hijacked.

I’d like a serious discussion on how you (or anybody here) would improve the system or do you guys think airport security is completely unnecessary?


71 posted on 01/24/2012 1:15:26 AM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
Personally, losing some privacy/personal liberty in boarding flights doesn’t bother me as much as being hijacked.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

75 posted on 01/24/2012 3:44:54 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: AlanGreenSpam; All

Alan, I’d also like to see a serious discussion about national security issues and airplane travel.

But what happened with a sitting United States Senator is multiple orders of magnitude worse. I agree with very little of what Rep. Ron Paul says, and I probably agree with very little of what Sen. Rand Paul says, but it has been a precedent in Anglo-American jurisprudence dating back to the **ENGLISH CIVIL WAR** in the 1600s (actually it was an established rule even before then) that sitting members of legislative bodies cannot be detained, arrested, or otherwise interfered with in their official duties or en route to perform them.

If detaining a sitting United States Senator and barring him from using his cell phone to contact anyone isn’t a violation of Constitutional principles, I don’t know what possibly could be. Yes, I know it was probably a mistake, but the mistake needs to get fixed -— PRONTO!!!!

The last time something like that was tried by a chief executive, it was King Charles I and the violation of parliamentary immunity involved in his attempt to arrest MP Oliver Cromwell was one of the incidents that touched off a war betwee the king and parliament.

The issues really **ARE** that serious. A republic cannot function if the chief executive can detain members of the legislative body.

I’m sure we’ll learn more in the future, but I don’t care who the senator was or what he believed — TSA needs to be told to make sure this never happens again. The only possible exception I can see is if Sen. Rand Paul didn’t identify himself as a senator and just appeared to be an obnoxious passenger, in which case his privilege from arrest would not apply because it was never invoked.

71 posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:15:26 AM by AlanGreenSpam: “I’m so totally for personal liberties, but given the threats of terrorism and using a 747 as a large fuel bomb to take out a building, what are you suggesting in place of our current Airport Security? Nothing? Personally, losing some privacy/personal liberty in boarding flights doesn’t bother me as much as being hijacked. I’d like a serious discussion on how you (or anybody here) would improve the system or do you guys think airport security is completely unnecessary?”


77 posted on 01/24/2012 5:14:31 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: AlanGreenSpam
My desire to abolish the TSA doesn't mean we should abolish airport security. If you are all warm and cozy with these TSA buffoons, as well as the looney policies, then you are a part of the problem.

You want real flight security? Then dump this PC BS, and profile. eeewwww We can't profile, that's a violation of civil rights... Well, when is the last time some lil ole lady from Pasedena hijacked an aircraft? Yet, she is subjected to the same scrutiny as the would be terrorist. And while she is getting a full body search, the actual terrorist has breezed right through the gates, and is busy boarding.

Had passenger profiling already been a critical part of airport security, 911 would have been prevented. Moreover, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now, and the twin towers would still be standing tall.

Privatize airport security. Cease the groping of our children It's effing perverted. Abolish the monstrous bureaucracy TSA. The TSA is now some 63k strong, with some 4k administrators. Really? Reeaallllyy?

83 posted on 01/24/2012 6:38:22 AM PST by takenoprisoner (Constitutional Conservatism is Americanism.)
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