[Timber Rattler]

Personally, losing some privacy/personal liberty in boarding flights doesn’t bother me as much as being hijacked.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

[aldabra]

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

Bears repeating. You beat me to the quote.

A basic question is why was 9-11 used as an excuse to install ever encroaching surveillance and abrogations of freedom in place of securing our borders and halting the flood of entrants, illegal and legal, from countries that hate us?

Why have the political elite foisted 'Free Trade' agreements that contain provisions the over ride immigration law upon us?

Why haven't those responsible for immigration been given the tools needed for timely accurate evaluation of visa applications?

Why since 9-11 has our country been flooded with potential terrorists.

[AlanGreenSpam]

-—>> “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759”

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Sure, it’s easy for you to post the great quotation by Ben Franklin and think you’ve won the debate, but how does that apply to cases like not being able to shout “FIRE” in a crowded theater. That’s “against the law” but you need to ask yourself the question: Is being able to shout “FIRE” in a crowded theater and “essential liberty?”

Under your logic, if you don’t mind that law, then you, too, “deserve neither liberty nor safety” per your own Ben Franklin quote.

The key question you need to ask when applying the famous Ben Franklin quote is: “Is the right to board a flight without being screened for security an ‘essential liberty’ as Franklin calls it?”

I say no, given the world we’re in with fuel-laden 747’s able to be used as bombs against us.

Again, I’m not trying to be controversial here, I’m just trying to figure out just what it is that the anti-TSA people desperately want to accomplish and why they choose that to be such a pivotal issue when there are so many other key “essential liberty” issues — such as Obamacare — to devote your energy to.

Furthermore, I’d like to see the anti-TSA people offer a better alternative.

One of the replies to my post here suggested doing racial/cultural profiling (of Muzzigers) and I agree that would be much more effective than screening little old ladies and children.

So that’s a start, but if you guys are suggesting NO AIRPORT SCREENING at all, that’s just too risky in today’s world. Unacceptable.

So, once again, guys, please tell me your proposed alternative to today’s TSA-based system. If you do answer NO AIRPORT SCREENING at all, then you fit squarely in the nutjob category in my book.