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To: surfer

Hello, thank you and sorry for the delayed reply, but with real life, and the debate, well my FReeping timetable occasionally suffers : /

Anyway, thanks for the clarification on your candidate. The thought of sifting through the posts of a FReeper from Year One was daunting, to say the least : o

I do understand, and agree about your frustrations concerning the hurry up offense, but I also see that, (like it or not), the opposition IS setting the pace in the minds of the average American voter, and in order to have any
hope of changing the outcome, we are going to have to come out
STRONGLY in favor of someone and do it quickly.

At some point, (and our options were diminishing by the day!!), we had to push back against their next target tactics and have them understand that we KNOW the foibles, and have chosen the candidate, (of those left to us!), who most of us believe is best equiped to seebthis through.


597 posted on 01/20/2012 6:06:12 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: thesearethetimes...; austinaero; dfwgator

Couple of comments here...

I never said the current candidates were any worse than Obama in regard to character. I believe Obama is aligned with Satan - PERIOD. You can’t go any lower than that - he is challenging Hitler to be the worst ever.

Heck he is even making Jimmy Carter look good.

What frustrates me about FR right now? The Gingrich supporters by in-large act no differently than the Obama supporters - its like we have GBOTS now. No ONE will address Gingrich’s issues. They throw insults, will not answer legitimate questions, concern - won’t even engage in a debate here so we can ALL get to the truth.

Gingrich’s own words...he is a Wilsonian.

http://conservapedia.com/Wilsonianism

Do we really want to go down this road again?

If this is only about beating Obama then why isn’t Romney on the table? Gingrich is not dissimilar than Clinton and FR sure made a lot of hay attacking Clinton’s character. For me it’s simple...Gingrich, Romney lack the moral fiber, lack the core principles and ethics that our country needs in a leader and what Conservatives should be DEMANDING - remember we out-number them!!!

Think about 1 billion being spent on a national daily negative ad campaign. This is all Obama has to do to win - one ad every day:

“She isn’t young enough or pretty enough to be the President’s wife. And besides, she has cancer.” - Newt, on his first wife.

One sound-bite every day in every market. Do you really think the American people outside the GBOTS will actually vote for Gingrich?

Santorum isn’t the flashiest but he is the ONLY one representing the truth - well Ron Paul does that as well to some extent but he is so far off the reservation on other issues he just isn’t serious.

Find a place where Santorum has lied? Find a core conservative principle where Santorum has flip-flopped? Find a flaw ethic in either his personal or professional life?

Let me saying something bold - God is watching and I really don’t think God is happy with us choosing the lesser of two evils.

Why not give truth a try this go-around? Why not put Obama up against the truth?

Look at the velocity of what Obama has done in spending, regulations, etc...this is the last chance before we lose our freedom - PERIOD and Ronald Reagan said...once a country has lost freedom they have NEVER gotten it back!

I just don’t see Gingrich actually winning the election - sure he will knock out Obama during debates - but is this what this is really about - embarrassing Obama?

Or is this about Conservatives (the majority of the country) having the courage to actually stand up for principles, ethics and morals and stand in the bright light of the truth and if God intends for Obama to stay in office to destroy the country that so many Conservatives have abandoned in their responsibility to be informed and vote - then at least we didn’t compromise our principles and support one lesser of a scumbag over another.

So here we are...are Americans actually brave rugged individuals like our founders or are we flip-flopping, convenient moral and ethics, participation trophy lemmings with no core values anymore?

And since when did America (or FR for that matter) become a place where people can’t disagree. If people understood the American experiment they would understand we are individuals and collected agreement is impossible - but that is exactly what makes us great - disagreements force improvements, failures force improvements.

We just can’t be afraid to fail especially if we are making our decisions on good moral and ethical principles.

Thanks for your kind and thoughtful responses it shows there are some decent people left here.


606 posted on 01/20/2012 7:11:57 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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