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To: wintertime

“If it were entirely the culture and not schooling then why do 95% of homeschoolers remain faithful in their church 2 years after graduating from high school? Why is it that 85% of government schooled children leave the faith?”

Because you’re removing all variables when you look at it, and deciding public school is the single causative factor. I would suggest that home school kids get less “culture”. Less TV, less questionable movies, and supervised internet access.

I went to public school, I haven’t left the faith.

The problem with public schools is those with the financial means, or the interest abandoned the public schools for home school, or parochial schools. We conservatives allowed the liberals to fill the void in public schools. We tended to our own while the liberals tended to everyone else.

Abandoning public schools was a catastrophe. As we are now beginning to notice, there are more of them, then there are of us.


62 posted on 01/19/2012 11:22:02 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: brownsfan

That’s kind of like the “breast-fed kids are healthier/smarter” study that was done.

It’s a correlation. Breast fed kids are paid more attention to by their parents, and the parents would be more concerned with the child’s health than the control group.

With the homeschooling & keeping the faith correlation, same deal - parents who care enough to shelter their kids from the secular indoctrination centers are also more likely to keep “the world” out of their homes in other ways as well. No TV, for one.


64 posted on 01/19/2012 11:27:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: brownsfan
Because you’re removing all variables when you look at it, and deciding public school is the single causative factor. I would suggest that home school kids get less “culture”. Less TV, less questionable movies, and supervised internet access.

I would suggest that you don't know what you're talking about.

My homeschooled kids got plenty of exposure to popular culture. The difference was that I was able to defuse it by talking to them. They didn't need deprogramming every day after 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 9-10 months out of the year locked in a public education institution which they weren't permitted to leave without my permission.

Education in public schools is by default secular and godless. They are taught to think that way. Those who come out "OK" are in the vast minority.

70 posted on 01/19/2012 12:09:55 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: brownsfan
I went to public school, I haven’t left the faith.
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You were one of the lucky 15%.

When I see odds with 95% homeschoolers remaining faithful and only 15% of government schooled kids remaining faithful and both are from highly active evangelical homes....well....it definitely needs investigating.

As for conservatives abandoning the government schools, I doubt it. Nearly 85% of the nation's children are “schooled” in our nation's godless socialist K-12 system. Where's the abandonment? If conservatives were leaving the government schools far less than 85% of the nation's kids would be attending.

Are the nation's socialist schools any less godlessly secular humanist because all those conservative kids are attending? No. It just gets worse year by year.

Are the nation's socialist k-12 schools any less socialist because conservative kids attend or so-called conservatives and Christians work there? No. Socialism is socialism and the only alternative would be to make them private, but then they would be private and not socialist.

Simply by attending children risk learning that government and the voting mobs give them tuition-free schooling. Well? Why not use government and the voting mob to get lots of “free” socialist goodies. It only took one to three generations of socialist schooling to give the nation Franklin D. Roosevelt for four terms.

Finally, children who attend godlessly secular schools will learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the classroom, read the text, and do assignments. How could it be otherwise?

Opening the very first socialist-entitlement school systems ( mid-1800s to early 1900s) was a catastrophe. Curriculum and teacher training has always been under progressive control. While at first they offered up a lukewarm and generic Protestantism, the push has always been toward complete godless secularism. By the way, you know what Christ does with the lukewarm. He spits them out of His mouth.

Government socialist-entitlement schooling has **always** been an abomination.

Personally, I consider government schooling sooooooo evil and such a threat to our nation's freedom that I will NOT have a government teacher for a friend. They are too evil, too stupid, too much of a Useful Idiot, or are more committed to their paycheck than to their so-called “conservative” or “Christian” principles. Government teachers are hurting children every day that they cooperate with this evil system. I am done with them!

If conservatives and Christians **really** loved children they would do two things:

1) Work to see that every child in this nation has access to a non-Prussian style, **private***, conservative education that upholds Judeo/Christian values, and our nation's founding principles.

2) Work to see that every godless socialist-entitlement school in this nation is shut down and padlocked, and sold to the highest bidder. Many of them would make great nursing homes and rehab centers.

Vouchers, tax credits, and charters may help build the infrastructure needed, but the end goal must be complete separation of school and state on every level from pre-k to graduate school.

88 posted on 01/19/2012 3:58:47 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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