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To: WilliamIII

if the “brilliant” EPA officials would make the fines high but realistic, they would be much more of a threat. They can fine me $37,500 from now until the end of time and it would not frighten me a bit...I haven’t $37.50 to my name and their threats would fall on deaf ears. I see that happening often, especially in federal cases, so and so was found guilty, sentenced to 30 years in prison and fined $1,250,000....what’s the point???


7 posted on 01/18/2012 8:12:30 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: terycarl
"....what’s the point???"

What's being exposed here is the failure of government in that some nickle and dime lifer who has nothing, does nothing and means nothing to anyone but himself was making his taxpayer funded rounds in his taxpayer funded truck befoer going to his taxpayer paid lunch and decided to justify his position by "writing someone up" for an innocuous violation.

But, kaakaa hit the fan when the Sacketts stood their ground and government being what it is, they could not back down. So, millions are going up in smoke while the justice we all know should be done is in question, possibly hanging on the votes of the two communist justices Obama has put on the Supreme court because the republicans in the senate have no balls. The case certainly has its cloudy elements; both sides are contesting who knew what and when. But at the end of the day, it appears EPA would rather sacrifice the Sacketts than admit that something smells odd and make the common man bow to the bureaucracy right or wrong. In a battle with common sense, EPA has bound regulation, judicial review, due process and bureaucracy into a Gordian knot that desperately needs to be cut. Since 2007, when the Sackett saga began, how much U.S. money has EPA spent on the case? How many millions in American taxpayer dollars will EPA burn up in pursuit of the Sacketts? No wonder EPA needs a $8.4 billion budget

11 posted on 01/18/2012 8:25:42 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: terycarl

So you don’t have $37,500 or $40 million or whatever. Well, consider this. The federal court could then expect you to sell all your assets (and give them the money) and live on the street as a homeless person. You still could work—but you could procure food only to the extent that so doing pleases the court or bureaucracy or other federal official. If you should perish, whether of starvation, exposure, hard labor, disability, or whatever else, then your heirs would inherit your debt to society. Ultimately, someone will pay.

And that’s after your 30 years incarceration at hard labor (if you survive that long; otherwise, your heirs inherit and serve the remaining sentence) during which the fine accumulates interest and penalties, which may include incarceration at hard labor for a term of years. So don’t harm your great-grandchildren: obey federal law.


23 posted on 01/18/2012 8:58:11 PM PST by dufekin (Name our lead enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Islamofascist terrorist dictator)
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