It seems that his legal argument with respect to the administrative subpoenas having only limited powers and only within the State of Georgia is correct. Obama's attorney Michael Jablonski also takes a jab at Taitz witness Doug Vogt (CEO of Archive Index System) who is to testify about the layers and anomalies in Obama's long form abstract birth certificate January 26,2012. He calls him a 'office machine salesman'.
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To: Obama Exposer
Those witnesses are agreeing to testify.
2 posted on
01/18/2012 7:17:40 PM PST by
Hoosier-Daddy
( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
To: Obama Exposer
Thomas Watson and Steve Jobs were “office machine salesmen”.
To: Obama Exposer
I suspect the judge will rule that Steve will have to produce documentation. Whether or not Hawaii complies is irrelevant.
4 posted on
01/18/2012 7:22:38 PM PST by
Hoosier-Daddy
( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
To: Obama Exposer
Yes, the subpoena is only valid in Georgia. And if the Democrats wish to certify Obama in Georgia using only documents obtained and available in Georgia I’m sure Taitz would enjoy that very much.
5 posted on
01/18/2012 7:24:56 PM PST by
VeniVidiVici
(Obama's War on Prosperity is killing me)
To: Obama Exposer
Help me out here. Suppose that Georgia can’t force anything out of Hawaii due to questions of state sovereignty. But, isn’t Georgia in control of its own nominating process?
Then, although it Georgia may not be able to compel document production from Hawaii, Georgia could also decide that the defendant Barry isn’t documenting his qualifications because those document were not produced. In other words, it could become in Barry’s interest to produce documentation supporting his claim as a legal candidate if he can.
To: Obama Exposer
Still, I have no doubt that Hawaii would honor these subpoenas if no personal attorney did not intervene to quash them if this was before the day Obama arrived on the national scene. They don’t follow their own laws or regulations and play evasive games to protect Obama.
8 posted on
01/18/2012 7:29:21 PM PST by
Red Steel
To: Obama Exposer
Great word, “Quash”.
Obama, Quasher-in-Chief.
Hmm, hmm, hmm.
12 posted on
01/18/2012 7:38:03 PM PST by
dagogo redux
(A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
To: Obama Exposer
So let’s see if I can get this right. The court in GA is saying we need to verify that the candidate is qualified. No one on the candidates side is offering qualifying documents so the court says to HI we need some docs. Then the candidates lawyers argue that GA has no authority to ask for the docs. So there will be no docs and the GA court will have no choice but to say no tickie no laundry....
In other words I am at a loss to understand why the candidates lawyers want to squash a subpoena that is being ignored in the first place. This is Russian Roulette IMO.
15 posted on
01/18/2012 7:45:38 PM PST by
GregNH
(I am so ready to join a brigade of pick up trucks......)
To: Obama Exposer
17 posted on
01/18/2012 8:02:34 PM PST by
bluecat6
( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
To: Obama Exposer
Another important factor is who has the ultimate burden of proof. As I see it is on Obama once his eligibility is challenged by a Georgia citizen. The burden of proof standard is usually preponderance of the the evidence. The only way the ALJ can rule in favor of Obama on the motion is if he is bought out or threatened. The case has to go to trial on the merits if the ALJ is going to be able to come up with findings of fact and recommendations for the Sec of State.
To: Obama Exposer
>> He calls him a ‘office machine salesman’.
Happens with ‘office machine’ COLBs.
23 posted on
01/18/2012 8:24:10 PM PST by
Gene Eric
(C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
To: Obama Exposer
Under Hawaii state law, disclosures are supposed to be made by the DOH upon orders from courts of competent jurisdiction. Generally such courts would be facilitating issues concerning divorces and adoptions, so it seems like it should be very typical for subpoenas to be issued from other states and for Hawaii to comply with those subpoenas. This is the general idea behind the Full Faith and Credit clause in the Constitution is that states cooperate with each other on such legal matters. That Obama’s lawyers would try to quash routine subpoenas is very incriminating.
26 posted on
01/18/2012 10:52:20 PM PST by
edge919
To: Obama Exposer
I was intrigued what the outcome may be.
Not much, it would seem.
No wonder concern by the voting public SO abysmally low.
27 posted on
01/18/2012 11:08:30 PM PST by
raygun
(http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
To: Obama Exposer
39 posted on
01/19/2012 5:30:48 AM PST by
antisocial
(Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
To: Obama Exposer; waterhill; ixtl
Interesting.
Bookmark for later and (((ping))).
43 posted on
01/19/2012 6:12:48 AM PST by
Envisioning
( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
To: Obama Exposer
Obama Has Lost!
You cannot refuse to testify in a civil suit without consequence. The 5th Amendment gives a criminal defendant the right to refuse to testify against himself, but a civil suit defendant does not have that right.
If Obama does not show in Georgia to testify under oath, then Plaintiffs will receive a Default Judgment.
If Obama were to show up in Georgia, then he would have to answer questions under oath that would incriminate him.
1) Where were born>
2)Have you ever been told by your parents or grandparents you were a citizen of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain?
3)Have you ever been issued a passport from Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain?
4)Did you attend Occidental College as a foreign national?
5)Do you have a Certificate of Naturalization on file with the USCIS?
Obama's only option is to claim lack of jurisdiction in the State of Georgia and appeal.
44 posted on
01/19/2012 6:21:33 AM PST by
SvenMagnussen
(PSALMS 37:28 For the LORD loves justice and does not abandon the faithful.)
To: Pan_Yan
50 posted on
01/19/2012 8:18:07 AM PST by
Pan_Yans Wife
("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
To: Obama Exposer
Many of the replies seem to show a lack of understanding of a basic fundamental of the Georgia law. Even if the judge determines that Obama has not proven that he is eligible for office of President, that DOES NOT mean Obama will not still be on the Georgia ballot.
Under the law, when a challenge is made, a judge is assigned to determine if the candidate is eligible for the office he is running for. The judge is responsible for generating a report on whether or not the candidate is eligible, and sending the report to the SOS. It is the responability of the SOS to then determine if the candidate should be removed from the ballot.
The responsability lies on the SOS to make the final determination of whether or not the candidate should remain on the ballot. The judge is there to generate report to help the SOS.
My fear is that Obama's lawyers will present no evidence at the hearing. The judge will then decide he no longer needs to hear any more arguments(such as Minor v. Happersett), because he already has enough to generate his report. The judge presents a report to the SOS saying that he recommends that Obama is not eligible because the defense presented no evidence. The SOS then says he will allow Obama on the ballot because he believes the BC on Whitehouse.gov is authentic.
55 posted on
01/19/2012 10:59:19 AM PST by
MMaschin
To: SeekAndFind
I don’t care of Coulter and others ignore it. The horse isn’t dead in Georgia.
71 posted on
01/20/2012 9:35:33 AM PST by
Pan_Yans Wife
("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
To: SeekAndFind
I don’t care if Coulter and others ignore it. The horse isn’t dead in Georgia.
72 posted on
01/20/2012 9:35:57 AM PST by
Pan_Yans Wife
("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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