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To: bigbob

So all of the freepers defending Newt’s stance on Bain Capital, are you willing to admit that Newt went too far? Seems like Newt is.

I like Newt 1000 times more than Mittens and would vote for him in a heartbeat over Willard. However, none of those reasons have to do with Bain Capital and free markets. I guess it doesn’t really matter who I’d vote for because this contest will be long decided by the time I get a chance to vote in Pennsylvania.


6 posted on 01/13/2012 10:11:19 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I’ve been upset about the choice of attacking Romney’s Bain experience from the get-go. Out of all the other weaknesses that they could have targeted, it’s just a shame that conservative Republicans decided to get into a urinating contest over capitalism instead.

As I understand it, the candidates cannot legally have any direct contact or influence over what the superpacs do. So what Newt is trying to do here is indirectly indirect the content of the ads, which the superpac can ignore if it chooses.


12 posted on 01/13/2012 10:26:10 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

What Mitt did at Bain Capital should be a warning sign that this man is ruthless and everyone should consider it to be a huge character flaw.

Mitt has no values in life as he has flip-flopped on every single one of them depending on the office he is seeking.

He has no feelings and will lay off hundreds of people to reach his goal.

Decent human beings don’t change their values nor do they make huge profits by screwing folks.

In the end, he will screw the entire county to reach his goal of being President of the United States - the most powerful person in the world.


16 posted on 01/13/2012 10:43:09 AM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
No! I would have slammed him myself. Ten times harder and especially on his scummy business ethics, or lack there of.

Newt is not attacking from the Left. He is attacking from the Conservative, PRO-Capitalist, ANTI-CRONY-CAPITALIST Right. Romney is not now and never has been a Capitalist. We should all be thanking Newt and the PAC for outing Romney before it is too late!

The reason why Romney is a poor candidate is because he is everything that the Leftists so wrongly claim that the Republicans are. He is a son of wealth who has used his family's wealth and power to increase the wealth of himself and a small cadre of investors at the expense of the larger society. He is by definition not a capitalist, he is a corporatist.
It is highly beneficial that we as conservatives and free-marketeers expose him now before he becomes the nominee.

26 posted on 01/13/2012 11:01:48 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
“So all of the freepers defending Newt’s stance on Bain Capital, are you willing to admit that Newt went too far? Seems like Newt is.”

I want to see what Newt said directly. Bet he said, IF there are inaccuracies correct them or pull it down. I want Newt, Perry, or Santorum to be the candidate.

Romney has stated than none of the other candidates are as qualified for president as he is, because of his experiences at Bain. He claims he created 100,000 jobs. He has chosen to make this issue front and center, and it needs to be vetted.

Romney talks about Staples and other venture capital deals which worked out real well. He doesn't want to talk about the non-venture “management consulting” part of the business which reminds me of a type of LBO. So other candidates are just supposed to keep hands off of anything Romney doesn't want to talk about?

Romney needs to prove his claims on job creation(it appears he might have padded his resume). He also needs to explain those handful of companies where questions have been raised regarding his mismanagement, fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders where he/Bain profited and the firm went under.

What is over the top is that the GOP E and their synchophants in the media have tarnished the image of Capitalism by framing this as an attack on Capitalism instead of a questioning of Romney's grandiose claims/record.

Personally, I am PO’d that Pubbies have tried to hide these issues from the voters. I think it is pathetic that the only way these candidates get vetted is by other candidates.

If there were any true investigative journalists out there, this would have been discussed adnausem a year ago, and questions would have been raised in the beginning debates.

The free market system has much more to it than private equity firms and leveraged buyouts. Calling an attack on Romney an attack on Capitalism is like calling an attack on a shady bounty hunter an attack on Law Enforcement.

Like Romney said, politics ain't bean bag, and the candidate has to take the heat. Maybe mittens needs to step out of the kitchen.

28 posted on 01/13/2012 11:09:35 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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