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38% Say Government Should Pay for College for Those Who Can't Afford It
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 1/6/12 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 01/07/2012 4:57:37 AM PST by floridarunner01

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To: duckman
My two youngest are going to community colleges with the help of scholarships and working part-time. Both have told me about the “gimme” mentality of most of their classmates. It's tough for them but they were raised to work for what you want. They also don't waste their time on “basket-weaving 101” and will leave there debt free.
21 posted on 01/07/2012 6:05:53 AM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: duckman

20 credits a semester and 7 years to get a BS? Something does not compute.


22 posted on 01/07/2012 6:05:57 AM PST by jpsb
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To: floridarunner01

In 1961, I was in sixth grade, and we were getting one of those “you all have to go to college” lectures from our teacher, and we had been getting the same lecture from our parents for all of our short lives.

One student asked what was probably the most pertinent question fo our age - “If everyone is smart, who will do the dirty work?”

With everyone going to college to get a white collar job, nobody wanted to do production line work. So, the factories closed and and we import what we used to make here in America.

So, after almost two generations of everyone going to college, and most not belonging there, many of the ones who did not belong in college, and are too lazy to work in a factory, and are too stupid to figure it out, ended up in one of the Occupy camps.


23 posted on 01/07/2012 6:13:43 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: floridarunner01

Too many colleges are just indoctrination mills into Socialist dogma.

Many people have made the big time without college. Think Albert Einstein. Rush Limbaugh’s father insisted he go to college. Rush tried it and dropped out within the first year. His father told him he’d never amount to anything.


24 posted on 01/07/2012 6:14:19 AM PST by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: floridarunner01

Should the government (you and your neighbors) buy me an iPad if I cannot afford it? A new pair of fancy Nike’s? A Honda Civic? Pay for my haircut? A flatscreen TV?

Why not, just print more “money”.


25 posted on 01/07/2012 6:24:59 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: floridarunner01

I wonder how many think gov’t should buy a car for those that cannot afford it?


26 posted on 01/07/2012 6:25:56 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Daveinyork
With everyone going to college to get a white collar job, nobody wanted to do production line work. So, the factories closed and and we import what we used to make here in America.

While college participation rates are higher marginally, the connection to the manufacturing labor force is not there. Get real.

27 posted on 01/07/2012 6:29:16 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jpsb

“Something does not compute.”
You are correct. I had to go back and do some calculating. It was from the fall of ‘67 to the spring of ‘71. Total of 8 semesters. So it was 121 credits over 8 semesters. It was still hell, carrying a full time job.


28 posted on 01/07/2012 6:30:31 AM PST by duckman (Herman 2012 was Zero's worst night mare.)
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To: floridarunner01
What I don't understand is, why does every job now require a college degree, at least an associates degree? Back in the day, if you wanted to work in a doctor's office (other than an RN), the doctor hired you and trained you to answer the phone and handle patients. Now you have to attend a community college, take prerequisites, then get on a waiting list, then take two years of classes just to be a medical assistant. It's a racket. (Community college tuition is not cheap anymore, either).

My daughter has been trying to enter that field. In fact, she landed a job as a medical assistant in a doctor's office without completing a medical assisting course and worked there for nearly a year before the practice was audited by the state and she was terminated because she didn't have her "credentials". She was doing a great job, in fact, the doc liked her so much during the time she was there, he gave her more responsibility and a raise. The patients loved her, and that's what he really cared about.

Bottom line is, she'd spend about $10,000 to land a $12.00/hr. job. How could she pay off a loan that size and support herself? She's currently waitressing, saving up the money.

29 posted on 01/07/2012 6:32:50 AM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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Aren’t they listening to the 99%? Protesters are whining that they can’t get jobs despite their degrees. So what’s the use????

They are talking out of both sides of their mouths. Either college degrees will get you a job or they won’t.

I’m sure that gumption and effort have nothing to do with it.


30 posted on 01/07/2012 6:33:02 AM PST by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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31 posted on 01/07/2012 6:37:16 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: freedumb2003

the key phrase here is “good student.”
Everyone has a different definition.
A truly “good student” is usually able to get private scholarship $$ to attend college and/or figure out ways to work part time and attend college.


32 posted on 01/07/2012 6:38:05 AM PST by a real Sheila (Taylor/Fife 2012)
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To: floridarunner01

Surprised it isn’t higher than 38%.


33 posted on 01/07/2012 6:39:39 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: duckman

I worked my way thru a community college too, 12 hours/semesters hitch hiking to from school at night. Yes it was a b*tch. But I am glad I did it, never graduated. I just took all the math, physics and computer science classes the school offered without ever taking a English course. Once I ran out of classes to take I stopped going, but I did manage to get a better job with my new improved skill set so it all worked out for the best.


34 posted on 01/07/2012 6:40:30 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Venturer
When I graduated High Schoolin 1960 there was no doubt in my mind that college wasn’t in my future.
Amen brother. I graduated 1966, went off to Parris Island and then on to VN. Eventually used the GI bill and part time work to get through college.
If I learned nothing else it's that America is the greatest country in the world - and the only person stopping you from succeeding is yourself.
I am sooooooo sick of today's whiners, the OWS scum and all the other losers with their hands out I could puke.
35 posted on 01/07/2012 6:45:09 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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There is always the GI Bill. Can’t afford to go to college? Defend your country for 6 years and while there take night classes or online classes.

And take something useful.


36 posted on 01/07/2012 6:48:04 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Mose Conservative in the Primary, the Republican Nominee in the General.)
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To: FrdmLvr
"terminated because she didn't have her "credentials".

Big government at work with a big assist by big insurance. I'll bet this kinda stuff happened thousands of times a day all thru out the USA. These days government regulates just about every facet of our working and personal life. We are lucky will can still take a crap (in our government approved tolet) with out a permission slip.

37 posted on 01/07/2012 6:49:04 AM PST by jpsb
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I did a few semesters on the GI bill long ago, but was not really serious about getting an education at that time. later in life I got serious, lol, late bloomer I guess.


38 posted on 01/07/2012 6:52:10 AM PST by jpsb
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To: hal ogen

‘Quaint idea’ — I like your phrasing. College is just a business. It is way over-priced, they do not deliver what they promise, they brainwash your kids on YOUR dime, and the market should take care of finishing the bad ones off. There is no earthly reason why We the People should purchase this commodity for Lazy Loafers.

arrggg, where IS the common sense these days?


39 posted on 01/07/2012 6:53:08 AM PST by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: floridarunner01

The next question should have been, “how much are you willing to have your taxes go up to pay for these kids’ college?” These attitudes disgust me. 38% is a big chunk of the American population. And I have no reason to believe that this poll is flawed. I bet 38% of Americans really do believe this nonsense. And I also bet they believe that “the rich” should be the ones paying for it. Its more of the “Gimme gimme gimme and make the rich pay for it” attitude that infests way too many Americans. Give me and everyone else the good life without having to pay for it.


40 posted on 01/07/2012 6:53:19 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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