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Santorum: Trim Social Security now even if painful
Associated Press ^ | Jan 6, 2012 6:35 PM (ET) | CHARLES BABINGTON

Posted on 01/06/2012 6:38:10 PM PST by DJ MacWoW

KEENE, N.H. (AP) - Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum called Friday for immediate cuts to Social Security benefits, risking the wrath of older voters and countless others who balk at changes to the entitlement program.

"We can't wait 10 years," even though "everybody wants to," Santorum told a crowd while campaigning in New Hampshire and looking to set himself apart from his Republican rivals four days before the New Hampshire primary.

Most of his opponents have advocated phasing in a reduction and say immediate cuts would be too big a shock to current and soon-to-be retirees.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: greed; planners; police; santorum; socialism; socialsecurity; teachers
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To: ncalburt
Rick Santorum on Social Security

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1994: Proposed raising retirement age, despite unpopularity.(Sep 2011)

Supports privatization if voluntary. (Sep 2006)

Switched from raising retirement age to personal accounts. (Sep 2006)

Guaranteed benefit if over 50; personal account if younger. (Sep 2006)

Raise retirement age? Maybe. Private investment? Yes. (May 2000)

Social Security needs reform sooner rather than later. (May 2000)

Voted YES on Social Security Lockbox & limiting national debt. (Apr 1999)

Voted YES on allowing Roth IRAs for retirees. (May 1998)

Voted YES on allowing personal retirement accounts. (Apr 1998)

Voted YES on deducting Social Security payments on income taxes. (May 1996)

Rated 10% by the ARA, indicating an anti-senior voting record. (Dec 2003)

221 posted on 01/06/2012 9:20:49 PM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: BillyBoy

Wasn’t it just yesterday we were reading how Santorum was a “Big Government, Compassionate, Conservative”?. And now an article on how he wants to throw old people out on the streets /sarc.

God help us if Obamacare doesn’t get repealed.


222 posted on 01/06/2012 9:21:04 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Just how conservative are these people complaining about what Santorum said?


223 posted on 01/06/2012 9:21:54 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: DJ MacWoW
"The answer is to privatize."

AAAAmen! Put it back where it was before LBJ decided it would be really nifty to put it into the general fund. People pay into it all of their lives; it should be available to them in their declining years.
224 posted on 01/06/2012 9:22:01 PM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: All
"Santorum: Trim Social Security now even if painful..."

Unbelievable that he would choose this to ignite his campaign. Ignite as in crash and burn...

225 posted on 01/06/2012 9:22:35 PM PST by Sleeping Freeper
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To: TomGuy

and some of us self-employed fools paid the full amount - meaning both the non-existent employer contribution and our own.

Now, because of the humongeous health care premiums we once paid, we couldn’t save enough, so now are up the creek. No paddles remain.

We would really appreciate a check for all we have paid in, with reasonable interest, and please consider all the losses incurred by the ever-shifting tax laws which consumed our savings when the “rules” changed.

Anyone remember when they did away with the law that let us income average for the good years vs the lean years?)

We have been screweled by our congress and administration for far more years than we care to think about, and when we try to explain the late 70s/early 80s to our adult children, they get that thousand yard stare, like the old-folks are whining again.

What the heck, I can’t even get across the concept of the fiat dollar to them.

It seems that they are doomed to have to learn it all on their own, the hard way. And, then 4 generations later, there will be a reprise of the same old sad refrain.

My only advice is to get out of your 401k/IRA/stocks, etc, and grab some real money while it is still cheap. That doesn’t mean fiat dollars/computer bank entries, my friends - but silver and gold coins, or bullion. Not paper, but the real deal, in your own possession.

Even though we are presently too poor to take these precautions, and need all our savings for meeting the “assisted living” bills, you might be in a better position to protect yourselves, your children, and your grandchildren against the oncoming devastation.

Again, do your own research, and be aware of the dangers of the market gimmicks out there. Not all that glitters, etc.


226 posted on 01/06/2012 9:23:23 PM PST by jacquej
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To: DJ MacWoW
"Don't cut SS, cut GOVERNMENT. "

I agree, but that's not going to happen. Most of the people who are active in politics for either political party are also directly or indirectly (e.g., services) dependent on incomes from government. Keep your eyes open, and you'll see comments from employees and pensioners of all levels of government here. There aren't enough voters making useful products. The few who try to do so are being robbed. It's going to get much worse, too.


227 posted on 01/06/2012 9:23:23 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: TomGuy

and some of us self-employed fools paid the full amount - meaning both the non-existent employer contribution and our own.

Now, because of the humongeous health care premiums we once paid, we couldn’t save enough, so now are up the creek. No paddles remain.

We would really appreciate a check for all we have paid in, with reasonable interest, and please consider all the losses incurred by the ever-shifting tax laws which consumed our savings when the “rules” changed.

Anyone remember when they did away with the law that let us income average for the good years vs the lean years?)

We have been screweled by our congress and administration for far more years than we care to think about, and when we try to explain the late 70s/early 80s to our adult children, they get that thousand yard stare, like the old-folks are whining again.

What the heck, I can’t even get across the concept of the fiat dollar to them.

It seems that they are doomed to have to learn it all on their own, the hard way. And, then 4 generations later, there will be a reprise of the same old sad refrain.

My only advice is to get out of your 401k/IRA/stocks, etc, and grab some real money while it is still cheap. That doesn’t mean fiat dollars/computer bank entries, my friends - but silver and gold coins, or bullion. Not paper, but the real deal, in your own possession.

Even though we are presently too poor to take these precautions, and need all our savings for meeting the “assisted living” bills, you might be in a better position to protect yourselves, your children, and your grandchildren against the oncoming devastation.

Again, do your own research, and be aware of the dangers of the market gimmicks out there. Not all that glitters, etc.


228 posted on 01/06/2012 9:23:35 PM PST by jacquej
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Girlene - “When you attack or accuse an individual, you are not dealing with the issue at hand, just merely trying to put the other person on the defensive.”

GGpaX4DumpedTea - Review your posts.

I have. There is no malice, no personal accusation. The only thing that comes close is that I said I thought your explanation of why Medicare costs were so high was simplistic, In My Humble Opinion.....then went on to back up what I thought made them so high. If you took offense to that...none was intended. I certainly didn't tell you to "put something in your pipe"......or tell you that you were part of "the problem" just because you didn't agree with my position.

Explain further if you like.
229 posted on 01/06/2012 9:24:37 PM PST by Girlene (Be nice)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Calling SS an entitlement really pisses me off. Working for thirty plus years and contributing my hard earned money....it Burns me using that word.


230 posted on 01/06/2012 9:24:45 PM PST by Shyla
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To: jwalsh07

I’m not for hanging him, but I’m not voting for him.

Not that it will matter. By the time it ever gets to Texas my vote won’t matter.

I’m for Perry who outlined a sensible plan, but if Perry doesn’t make it, I’m switching to Gingrich.


231 posted on 01/06/2012 9:24:53 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura

We’ll save you a seat.


232 posted on 01/06/2012 9:26:30 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: patriot08

Amen!


233 posted on 01/06/2012 9:26:30 PM PST by Shyla
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To: TBP

The FR SSI is mine don’t touch it crowd might be happier if they went over to the DU. They’d be missed but what the hack go with your own kind.


234 posted on 01/06/2012 9:26:48 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I want your money and I want it now.

Ring the doorbell loud (I’m a little deaf in the older years) and bring cash.

I don’t trust no banks or nothin’


235 posted on 01/06/2012 9:27:05 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Oh,for Pete's sake. This is the AP reporting this....

....The AP!!!

I'd take this with a grain of salt. Really.
236 posted on 01/06/2012 9:27:38 PM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: patriot08

The posts here just confirm what I’ve been saying for years about why nothing will ever change in Washington.

Everybody wants to cut spending and pork EXCEPT for their own pet programs.


237 posted on 01/06/2012 9:28:17 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Shyla
Calling SS an entitlement really pisses me off. Working for thirty plus years and contributing my hard earned money....it Burns me using that word

It's a Ponzi scheme. Intellectually you know this is true but you are in denial. You are not alone. Reality is bitch and sometimes it is ok to delude yourself. The problem is when people delude themselves on a public web site.

238 posted on 01/06/2012 9:29:53 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: altura

You get 6.4% of my money every month.


239 posted on 01/06/2012 9:31:17 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dfwgator

Social security is not a ‘pet program.’

It’s a system instituted by the government and forced on us.

A large percentage of senior citizens depend on their social security for basic living.

Perhaps it should have been changed years ago, but it wasn’t. You saw what happened to George W. Bush when he tried social security reform.

People are amenable to reform now and it can happen if a sensible, compassionate (sorry about the word—I know it offends some of you) plan is proposed.


240 posted on 01/06/2012 9:31:59 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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