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Michele Bachmann announcement at 11:00 am. Not going to SC -Per Fox
Fox News | 1/4/2012 | selg

Posted on 01/04/2012 5:58:03 AM PST by sodpoodle

Doocey announced a few minutes ago


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To: adc
We can’t WIN with a true conservative.

When we have a conservtaive that runs as a conservative, we win. Every time.

The problem is that the party and the media hate letting a conservative win the primaries.

121 posted on 01/04/2012 10:28:31 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: adc
Big Tactical Mistake. Which not many truly understand. Evidence: McCain vs Obama ‘08.

The problem with McCain is that he wasn't a conservative. When it comes down to voting for the liberal or liberal lite the leaches vote for the liberal and the conservatives stay home.

We have the same problem with Romney.

122 posted on 01/04/2012 10:32:54 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Pravious
So what is it? Do they like the guy’s (Romney's) hair? Do the women think he’s handsome? Does someone, somewhere, somehow actually understand what he says... and believe him?

I can only come up with two things. 1. They like socialism. 2. They like the normalization of homosexuality.

When it comes ruight down to it:
Obama = Carter (Now available in black)
Romney = Obama (Now available in white)

123 posted on 01/04/2012 10:36:45 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Pravious; All
100 posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:28:06 AM by Pravious: “In a way, I regret that Mitt supporters have seemingly been banished from FR. I would like to hear their justifications for voting for the man. The people who support Huntsman make the usual noises like “we need a moderate to win! Conservatives can never win anything! Blah, blah, blah” (in SPITE of last year’s elections, mind you) - but Mitt isn’t RUNNING as a moderate so they couldn’t use that as a reason. So what is it? Do they like the guy’s hair? Do the women think he’s handsome? Does someone, somewhere, somehow actually understand what he says... and believe him?”

I am **NOT** a Romney supporter, so please don't zot me, anyone... but I may have an answer based on what I see and hear from Romney supporters.

I think the key is that Romney is an economic conservative with legitimate private sector business experience outside of government that goes back to his father's role in the auto industry. At the same time, while he takes the stances on social issues he needs to take as a Republican, the libertarian-leaning parts of the Republican Party know that's not where his heart is, and he won't push a so-called “Radical Right Wing” social issues agenda if elected.

As to his business experience, he did fix the Salt Lake City Olympic games, financially speaking. Furthermore, those who look into the details of Bain Capital will see that it's a turnaround firm that focused on cutting lots of “nonproductive” employees to take financially failing companies and make them profitable again.

I am absolutely **NOT** a supporter of wholesale gutting of private sector employees, though I certainly grant a private company's right to do so. I've seen that stuff up close and personal. Too many of my friends have lost their jobs based not on their own performance but on factors beyond their control, based on orders from high-up corporate executives who don't have hands-on experience in the company they head. Cuts sometimes hsve to be made but too often they turn into top executives who don't know the business using chainsaws instead of scalpels, and what starts out as “cost cutting” turns into middle managers and lower managers saying, “let's protect our friends” rather than making a real business assessment of employee productivity.

Despite my serious reservations about Bain Capital's methods in the private sector, those **ARE** skills which could actually be useful in fixing the Washington bureaucracy. Things are so bad in Washington that a chainsaw may actually be a good thing, and I think economic conservatives recognize that Romney's history shows he'll be willing to stand up to the entrenched civil service system if he has a Republican Congress behind him to back him up.

For me, none of that is good enough reason to vote for Romney. The abortion issue is an absolute no-go for me. Even worse is his history of flip-flopping. I'm not sure what Romney's core values are and I'd rather deal with a candidate whose convictions are firm — even if I disagree with them — than a candidate like Romney who I'm not sure I can trust to keep his word once elected.

124 posted on 01/04/2012 12:01:15 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: Pravious

Santorum was horrible in the debates. After seeing his snooty, snide performances, I can’t get behind him. I simply don’t like him and don’t think he has a chance in Hades of beating Obama.

I was a big Michelle fan until I saw her in the debates. She proved herself to not be the person I thought she was. I’ll find it hard to ever believe anything she says again.

The debates were very telling. I’m praying for a Newt or Perry nomination.


125 posted on 01/04/2012 1:41:55 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: sodpoodle

Herman Cain will be appearing on Hannity tonight at 9:30pm Eastern to make a special announcement!


126 posted on 01/04/2012 1:55:21 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: John O

If you want to believe that’s why he lost, believe it. I’d say the reason is he was just no competition for the charismatic Obama. Like Dole vs Clinton, we are heading down the same road because of an inability to believe that most voters are ignorant of issues. That’s not going to change anytime soon. They don’t care about issues. They want a feel-good President. We’ll only win with one of those ourselves. Sad but true.


127 posted on 01/04/2012 5:26:40 PM PST by adc
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128 posted on 01/04/2012 6:56:59 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: PrinceOfCups
Wilson was not running in 1920.....
. . . and neither was George W. Bush running in 2008 - but that didn't stop the Democrats from running against him anyway.
Wilson had worn out his welcome by 1920, and the Democratic Party wasn't able to defeat a Senator for POTUS despite the advantage of nominating a governor that year. Democrats couldn't get elected dog catcher in 1920. And they had pretty much the same problem in 2010. If they have the same problem this year, please God . . .
I'd much prefer that we nominate a governor for POTUS - but if Palin won't run and Rick Perry can't run, it looks like we're stuck with a senator, a congressman, or a RINO who is at least a governor.
The real point is, of course, that we have McCain - Feingold to thank - and George Bush, and Sandra Day O'Connor - for the fact that Ronald Reagan could not have run for POtUS if we had had the same laws in effect then that we do now.

129 posted on 01/05/2012 3:22:05 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: adc
we are heading down the same road because of an inability to believe that most voters are ignorant of issues. That’s not going to change anytime soon. They don’t care about issues. They want a feel-good President. We’ll only win with one of those ourselves. Sad but true.

People vote fgor their own self interest. What really grabs them is knowing that they will be better off financially under a new administration. None of the failed republican candidates you have mentioned made that point. None of them pushed conservatism.

Lower taxes mean more money in your pocket. Less government interference in your life means more money in your pocket. Less government interferenc ein business means a far better economy which means more money in your pocket.

Do you want to be able to retire, maybe even early? Do you want to have all those nice toys and vacations? Do you want your kids to have a chance at being prosperous? Then you need to vote consevrative because the conservative puts more money in yoru pocket.

People don't care who the president is. They care what he is going to do for them. Conservatism, when explained well, is always received by everyone other than the welfare class.

130 posted on 01/05/2012 5:53:32 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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131 posted on 01/05/2012 7:46:57 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: John O

I am conservative. I’ve voted for the most conservative out there every time in every primary and in every general. No need to direct me there.

However, my ONLY goal, right now, is to get behind the potential candidate who can compete with Obama on ALL levels. and beat him. Purism aside. There’s no beating him with a pure conservative who has no charisma. There are only 2 left that have charisma (imho), neither of which are Newt or Santorum. . . . as much as I like Santorum. And opting out in November because I don’t get my preferred but unlikely choice to win, is not an option for me.


132 posted on 01/05/2012 9:50:53 AM PST by adc
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