Posted on 01/02/2012 12:19:23 PM PST by Kaslin
I know that every candidate has passionate supporters, but its obvious that Ron Pauls followers are especially passionate to the point of being downright touchy whenever he is strongly criticized. Or am I being unfair in my assessment?
Last week, I received an email via Townhall from an apparent Ron Paul supporter. He wrote, You want war with Iran send your own [expletive] kids, not mine. Stop sucking up to Isreal [sic]. What a piece of [expletive] this Townhall spews. One can clearly see your [sic] for the Tea Party of Hate. I know becuase [sic] of your hate for Ron Paul.
Now, the funny thing is that, in several dozen Townhall articles written in 2011, I mentioned Iran a total of twice (in passing, at that), I mentioned the Tea Party twice (in the space of one article, without criticism or endorsement), and most importantly, I never once mentioned the name of Ron Paul. Not once! Yet somehow I am fashioned a Ron Paul hater.
Obviously, this is just one email from an anti-Israel, anti-Tea Party, profanity-using, spelling-challenged reader, and in no way do I judge Ron Paul or the rest of his supporters by one foolish email. Of course not. And yet, theres something all too familiar about this pro-Paul email, specifically, its unusually rabid tone.
It is an open secret that no one has supporters who are more devoted, loyal, or committed than Ron Paul, and if other candidates had followers as dedicated as his, the current political landscape would look very different.
So is that the answer to my question? Is it simply that Pauls followers are more passionate than others, implying that they will also be more defensive and even touchy?
Or is this overly simplistic? Perhaps the real issue is that, for years, the media has seemingly failed to give Paul his due, giving other candidates more coverage and attention and even time to respond in public debates. And so Pauls followers have simply had it with being slighted, becoming especially sensitive to criticism.
Or maybe Pauls supporters have emulated some of his own style, being more didactic than dynamic and more cantankerous than charismatic? Maybe this is one the reasons they are attracted to him?
Or could it be that as a libertarian, he gives voice to causes and stands up for values that few other candidates believe in or espouse? Although he is a long-time politician, he is also outside the main stream on many key issues, and so, he is not only embraced as a political candidate but also as a champion of the people, an anti-establishment hero to be defended and backed with tenacity and zeal. Its not every candidate who writes a book on Revolution and really means it. (Hey, when he talks about the need for revolutionary change, hes speaking my language too.)
Or is it something else? Could it be that his positions are so extreme that it leaves his followers vulnerable and defensive? After all, when your candidate downplays the threat of radical Islam (even though its adherents probably surpass the adult population of America in number), when he chooses not to recognize the very real danger of a nuclear weapon in the hands of Iran (despite all the blood currently on Irans hands), when one of his former senior aides, Eric Dondero, claims that Paul is anti-Israel, how can his supporters not be hyper-sensitive to criticism? (According to Dondero, while Paul is neither a racist nor an anti-Semite, he is most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. . . . He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.)
I actually have no axe to grind when it comes to Ron Paul, nor do I have a dog in this fight. Is he really anti-Israel, or is there a solid answer to the charges against him? Are his foreign policies naïve, or does he really understand the nature of anti-American blowback? Are some of his radical monetary proposals the very thing we need, or is he arguing for changes that can never occur? Has he been wishy-washy on important social issues like homosexual activism, or does he really espouse conservative morality? And is he a man of trustworthy character, or is he being dishonest when he disavows knowledge of many of his past newsletters?
These are questions for others to answer, and despite the hostile comments that can be expected in response to this article, I am not hostile to Ron Paul. My question has to do with his followers.
Why are they so touchy? Or am I being unfair?
I call it like I see it. Your screens must be caked with spittle. Your pal just said Paul had a “whacked-out poo-brain”.
Ok it’s not hatred. It’s infantile and stupid.
Ok its not hatred. Its infantile and stupid.
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No it is accurate and polite considering some of the other things said about Paul.
I see you are class of ‘98. Have you always been a Libertarian or is this a new development because of Ron Paul?
Oh and thank you for proving the point of the thread. We sane people appreciate it.
Cause they’re high all the time.
And so do I, ;-)
With every flaw that Ron Paul has, he is still heads above anything that has been served up. I would take my chances with him over Romney or Gingrich. Ron Paul is the only Candidate that can beat Obama.
Ping to #146 and surrounding posts. Getting fun over here.
You forgot your sarcasm marker. Just a heads up - no need to thank me.
Hey, you beat me to it! I was just thinking someone should call in an air strike!!
I forgot to ping the mod though.
Paul’s departure from the Republican Party and attendant remarks disavowing Reagan are well known. Does not bother me in the least. Ron Paul stuck to principle in desiring a smaller government as opposed to a slower growing, big government. That notion is resonating a bit more these days, as it should. Are any other GOP candidates iterating clearly an intent to shrink government as opposed to reigning it in a bit? Cain was there. Palin, too. Bachmann, maybe.
If you count that as a serious question, then I guess we differ from the get go when it comes to language. Would you fashion a fancy stick, swat hornets' nests with it, and then expect obedience and adulation in return? Essentially that is what we do when we allow our dear leaders to advance Western principles by force and without invitation.
Western principles are great. They are worthy of strong defense, and even widespread promotion. But if you think they won't cause issues when spread into snake pits, well, look at our economy now. We've taken our best resources and spread them into all corners of the world like honey on a dog turd. Now we get to experience the stink and sting.
Maybe you don't think we have the wherewithal and resources to defend ourselves within our own borders while trading peaceably with foreign interests. Send me a little cash for a bazooka to guard the ghetto over my way. I promise, you'll feel safer and you'll be more prosperous. But be ready to bleed when the locals reject my sense of how they need a little policin'.
Actually, I beat you both. :-)
If you are trying to get someone banned or suspended because you don’t like their personal choice, wouldn’t it be courteous to ping them, as you are tattling to the Mods?
I did ping them earlier.
My appologies.
No problem. There have been so many of these threads and so many of the same people its hard for me to keep track.
I’m praying things will settle down in the next few weeks.
Pardon me, but my recollection is that this is a conservative forum. That doesn't mean we all will always agree - however, promoting left-wing Soros funded organizations to smear conservatives does not appear to be in keeping with that ideal, nor does telling people you wish them to 'drop dead' for pointing out the fact they are doing so - do you find that to be courteous? There was no reprimand from you in regard to that kind of a remark.
By the way, he was pinged in my post earlier as well where I first indicated possible troll conduct.
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