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Posted on 01/02/2012 9:42:46 AM PST by SvenMagnussen
Las Vegas 1 January 2011 (sic). President Obama has(sic) had a dream run to the White House and hopes to remain there for another term. His chances of re election are diminished by his failure to convince Americans that he is entitled to the office he holds.
There are many Americans who are concerned that Barack Obama is not who and what he says he is. Veterans like Robert Laity are frustrated that media outlets have not pressured President Obama into releasing a real authenticated copy of his birth certificate. There appears little doubt that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii but many people believe that he is not entitled to hold his office as he is ineligible due to the status of his parents. The President's birth certificate would clear up that issue.
Robert Laity is a vocal American who is complaining to have Barack Obama charged with electoral fraud. The issue seems to be that the election authorities do not require a candidate to prove that he or she is entitled to seek an office. It is up to someone to prove that a candidate is not entitled to stand.
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There does not need to be a legal definition for commonly understood terms. That modern people no longer remember what the terms meant in 1787 is not the fault of those who wrote our laws at that time. Indeed, they repeatedly urged us to harken back to the meanings of words in use at their time.
As a Marine Corps Brat, I resented the fact that my classmates born abroad could never be president. I understand the wisdom of that now.
I have no concerns about the loyalty of the children of American Soldiers born abroad. They are loyal and posses allegiance to only one nation. Nothing more needs to be considered.
They were as clueless as the rest of the nation both as to how it was a violation and as to why we should care. None of them has the guts to face the media screaming storm they would have to deal with if they questioned barry's eligibility. I knew at the time the best we would be able to do was to get a state law passed preventing another such circus of incompetence in the future. As it has turned out, even that may be a long stretch of an accomplishment. Barry is using the power of the Federal government to give money to governors to convince them not to let such a law get passed.
We the sheeple...
“It has long been a recognized principle in this country that if a child born here is taken during minority to the country of his parents’ origin, where his parents resume their former allegiance, he does not thereby lose his citizenship in the United States provided that on attaining majority he elects to retain that citizenship and to return to the United States to assume its duties.”
PERKINS, Secretary of Labor, et al. v. ELG. ELG v. PERKINS, Secretary of Labor, et al.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/307/325
In 1971,72, Barry Soetoro returned to Hawaii as an unaccompanied minor. He was place in U.S. Federal Protective custody and assigned a legal custodian.
From his Connecticut SSN, we know Obama’s legal custodian from the age of 10 to 18 was headquartered in Connecticut. Obama’s grandmother was appointed his guardian.
It was Obama’s legal custodian (Connecticut based) that flew BHO Sr. from Kenya, Africa to Hawaii to file a complaint about the Soetoro adoption and regain his parental rights. But, BHO Sr. was an absentee father. So, the legal custodian retained custody of Obama.
After the Soetoro adoption was annulled, BHO’s Sr. name was placed on the Barack Hussein Obama II COLB and the Soetoro COLB was sealed and archived in Hawaii DoH.
As with Elg, Obama had the option to reassert his right as an American citizen before he reached the age of 18 1/2 years but he chose not to. He was riding the Foreign Student Scholarship gravy train and didn’t want to give it up.
Eventually, Obama naturalized as a U.S. Citizen. He could have retained his Natural born citizenship status by processing the correct paperwork with the American consulate before he was 18 1/2 years old, but he made a decision not to.
So when and how did Obama become a lawful permanent resident?
Barry Soetoro returned to Hawaii as an unaccompanied minor in 1971. He was taken into Federal Protective Custody. Eventually, he became a Permanent Resident Alien of the U.S. shortly after that.
When he was 15,16, his legal custodian (located in Connecticut) filed for a SSN for him. Permanent Resident Aliens are allowed to apply for and receive an SSN.
http://www.cppp.org/repatriation/Backgrounder2.pdf
what are you talking about, why would obama be placed in federal protective custody? He had a mother and father in Indonesia. Were are the records of his permanent residency? What is his A number? Where are the records of his naturalization? Where are the records of his guardianship? Who claimed him on their tax records? Fill in some big blanks.
George Archibald has submitted a detailed FOIA request to the DOJ, FBI and Robert Bauer. He is getting stonewalled. He’s had to file a lawsuit to obtain information on Obama’s immigration papers.
Can you believe that? If Obama has nothing to hide, then why doesn’t he open up his immigration file to public scrutiny?
...Can you believe that? If Obama has nothing to hide, then why doesn’t he open up his immigration file to public scrutiny?.....
Well duh obama is hiding everything and probably for good reason.
As far as his entry from Indonesia to US-Hawaii, did he come by ship or plane and how did they let an unaccompanied minor borad without a valid passport and/or visa? If the carrier doesn’t check they are responsible for return transportation. Not likely to happen because first off he would have been 10 years old in 1971. He would have been checked and rechecked byt common carrier. Of course he could have been smuggled in yeah that’s the ticket. What happened to your idea of obie being a refugee?
Thank you thank you thank you!
That’s not what they taught us Marine Corps Brats, in a school on the base, being taught by teachers hired by and supervised by the Marines. We were told explicitly that this meant those of us born overseas couldn’t hold the Office of the President.
Oh for a time machine...
Under the laws in place at the time, Barack Hussein Obama II was a British Subject at birth.
Even the most casual and disinterested of observers would conclude that this was not what the Founders had in mind when the reserved the highest office in the land, and only that office to a Natural Born Citizen.
That’s not what they taught us Marine Corps Brats, in a school on the base, being taught by teachers hired by and supervised by the Marines. We were told explicitly that this meant those of us born overseas couldn’t hold the Office of the President.
Glad I could help.
Oh for a time machine...
I could use one of those as well. :)
I suspect we’d only get ourselves in trouble with one...
Ah, but what fun!
The Amendment which granted basic citizenship to newly freed slaves did not repeal article II eligibility requirements. What were the requirements in 1787 are still the requirements today.
In any case, it would be really tough to walk this back, given Obama's daddy's background was well known years before the 2008 election:
What are you talking about? We don't even know for sure that Barack Obama is really his daddy. He certainly resembles Frank Davis a lot more than he does "his daddy." We also didn't know the Democrats would be so stupid as to pick this moron. Hillary may have been corrupt, but she wasn't an idiot.
There is no way the Court is going to find "natural born" to mean anything beyond "citizen by birth".
Well they got Roe v Wade and Kelo v New London wrong too, so when they make such blunders we should simply regard them as we might a gibbering mentally handicapped child whom we are forced to put up with.
Idiots in the courts is a side effect of Democrats getting into power.
We can get the States to force him to produce actual proof that he was in fact born in Hawaii,(or not) for starters.
He is about the most UN-NATURAL born citizen you could find. If he was born in Canada, (a possibility which has not yet been disproven) he wouldn't even be a citizen at all! I personally think he is no kind of loyal American and has nothing but hatred for America. He would have been just as content being "King of Indonesia" as he wanted when he was a child.
I think you’re wrong. And these people, who know more about it than me, seem to agree:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen
When was Barry living with Soebarkahs and what was his legal citizenship and custody status when he was doing so?
I know I’m right and don’t care what you, or the people that agree with you, think.
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