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To: the scotsman

You wrote:

“No, nobody did, but equally the idea and myth that Britain deliberately starved 1.5m people (oh, and that all the dead were Catholic Irish and thats why it happened) is a nonsense.”

Who here is suggesting any of that? Not me.

“Your comparison to the Homodomor for example is ridiculous.”

I made no comparison. I said it reminded me of it. Here, in fact, is EXACTLY what I said since you seem to be struggling with basic reading comprehension: “There’s no getting around the fact that Ireland was a net exporter of food for those years, and that food was carted away for sale in Britain under armed guards. It reminds me of Stalin’s policies in Ukraine in the 1930s.”

Here, for your disliking, is more of a comparison:

Ireland = forced net exporter of food during a famine.
Ukraine = forced net exporter of food during a famine.
Ireland = food shipped out of country under armed guard.
Ukraine = food shipped out of country under armed guard.

Now, that is certainly more of a comparison so go ahead and get your panties all in a twist. Just remember, everything I said is absolutely true and completely irrefutable. If you can refute either of the two “comparisons” above do so. Otherwise, keep failing in whatever idiotic activity it is you are attempting. I honestly have no idea what you’re doing other than embarrassing yourself. Perhaps you’re good at that.

“Michael Sheane’s book on the Famine is very good, as it studies the famine area by area (Tyrone, Donegal etc), and also is a book that looks at the forgotten Protestant deaths of the Famine.”

I don’t doubt for a second that Protestants may have starved to death. I also don’t doubt for a second that some Protestant controlled aid agencies forced Catholics to choose between renouncing their faith and starving to death. That’s a lot more sinister than people simply starving to death.

See, again, Christine Kinealy, The Hidden Famine: Hunger, Poverty and Sectarianism in Belfast 1840-1850, pp. 136-137.


104 posted on 12/29/2011 9:41:40 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

1—I didnt say YOU said that. It was a general point.

2-Instead of patronising other freepers, which is certainly something you are good at (I have argued with you before and read you in threads I havent taken part in), and in my case because of my supposed inability to read and comprehend, perhaps you should take a look at your posts, and how they are constructed and read to other freepers.
The reference to the Ukrainian famine could easily be read as you making a comparison between historical events.

But rather than look at how you post, I understand that you find it easier to simply patronise people, as you seem to have a very high regard for yourself and your intellect.

In all the time I have been on FR, which now nearly 8 years under two names, I frankly have never seen you admit error, even when others have clearly corrected your statements or facts. You come across as incredibly arrogant and extremely patronising, and more importantly infallible and that every other freeper is rather below you.


106 posted on 12/29/2011 1:30:23 PM PST by the scotsman (I)
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