Gallup: Obama job approval surges (swings 10 pts. in 2 weeks; bad news for thinking Americans)

Politico, another Hussein cult worship center on the web ^ | 12/26/11 | B Tau

[Lmo56]

I do not understand why everyone is freakin’ out ...

The President had a mildly good month - what with the [bogus] lowering of the unemployment figures and his “win” over the “tax cut” ...

An associated bump in the polls was inevitable ...

Now for the good news ...

FIRST, the “tax cut” fight is coming back in 2 weeks - this time, people are gonna realize that the current two-week extension includes a little-known tax provision that INCREASES the fees paid to Fannie and Freddie. Anyone who closes on a house in the next 2 weeks is gonna find that they are going to pay an ADDITIONAL $10K in fees [for a $200K mortgage] over the life of the loan ...

SECOND, the seasonal temporary Christmas jobs are going to start to go away in January. These people are going right back to the unemployment rolls. By the end of January, the UE is gonna be back up to around 9% ...

My sister works on Wall Street and says that all of the financial firms TOTALLY discount ALL of the financial AND unemployment data that is generated by the government between after Thanksgiving and January 31st since it is skewed ...

So, Obama is gonna be right back where he was before the season started - with the MSM calling the bad news “unepected” ...

[toldyou]

He’s vacationing in Hawaii for 17 days...he’s not appearing in the media, and all of a sudden his job approval surges. Does absence makes the heart grow fonder?

[matthew fuller]

What’s the obvious take-away when your approval spikes coincidentally with your going to Asia on vacation?

[nutmeg]

bookmark

[dalebert]

hey clueless ...I am not squandering..but the republicans and democrats are.

[Smokin' Joe]

Unemployment will be below 8% and voters will see it as getting better.

It might be presented that way, but it is "improving" now because those who had 99 weeks of benefits are starting to run out, and when they are off the list, they don't count any more. It is as bogus as calculating the CPI without energy and food prices and using that to establish inflation.

[paudio]

Anyone that believes that any candidate the Republicans nominate will beat Obama is going to be extremely disappointed.

Amen. I'm sometimes puzzled by the easiness to underestimate 0bama's reelection chance by some Freepers. No, I don't believe any conservative can beat 0bama. Otherwise, we'd have Senator Angle today.

[ScottinVA]

If true, we are screwed. People will follow the herd. Or at least where the herd appears to be going.

I agree. Large swaths of Americans -- unwilling to do the hard research themselves -- prefer to be told by the "media" how and what to think.

[ScottinVA]

It might be presented that way, but it is "improving" now because those who had 99 weeks of benefits are starting to run out, and when they are off the list, they don't count any more. It is as bogus as calculating the CPI without energy and food prices and using that to establish inflation.

The feds use the lowest possible number, with the minimal factors involved to get to that 8.6%. By election time, it'll be engineered down to below 8%. This is one of the huge advantages Obama has.. a low bar to cross, only having to provide the sheeple with enough "evidence" that we've turned the corner.

[sam_paine]

The economy is in the tank and he has few gimmicks left.

Or...perhaps we ain't seen nothin yet.

[Smokin' Joe]

Even though they can cook the books on the teevee, the people sitting at home or scratching to bring in a buck are going to know it's BS, and there are millions of them.

This is where the GOP needs to hold the administration's feet to the fire and pressure them to release real numbers, but they are unlikely to do so out of fear it will be spun back at them.

[sam_paine]

It doesn't help that republican candidates and their henchmen have been gleefully stabbing each other in the back on national tv. The squalid infighting makes obama look good by comparison.

Sounds like a normal day on FR.

[sam_paine]

Whether it’s 4-in-10 or 5-in-10 who APPROVE of this idiot after all we’ve seen of him, the reality is that 2012 was probably lost 21 years ago when anti-Reagan suburban liberal schoolteachers were breeding.

The real challenge is getting some of the 4-in-10 to change from loving welfare and lying communists to preferring hard work, deferred gratification and capitalism.

THAT’S NOT POSSIBLE TILL THE NEXT GENERATION AT THE EARLIEST.

And that’s why the Establishment GOP is concentrating on the 5th-in-10 wishy washy indy-idiot who vacillates between liking Obama and disapproving.

[sam_paine]

Are people ever going to wake up??? NO! The pollsters are playing everybody for fools

Or, more likely, the pollsters are correctly reflecting a voter pool of fools?

[WilliamofCarmichael]

I’ve been wondering.. do Democratic Party moles run the national Republican Party? I am pretty sure California Democrats have run the California Republican Party for years.. at least since the mid 1990s.

[Smokin' Joe]

I'm not so sure. There is a satisfaction which comes with doing a job and doing it well, and something else: self-respect.

Granted, there are those who have acquired a taste for the ersatz of "self-esteem" they've been fed all their parasitic lives, but for many, one taste of self-respect can be a game-changer.

That won't save all, probably not even half who get the chance, but it will get through to some.

They'll be the ones who help the following generation advance, if our 'caring' government quits lavishing them with the means to keep slacking.

OTOH, when we go broke because none in the Federal Government had the guts to dry up the teat and wean them, there will be Hell to pay for a while, and fewer to support afterward.

[PapaNew]

"The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith from spiritual faith to great courage from courage to liberty from liberty to abundance from abundance to selfishness from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy from apathy to dependency from dependency back to bondage."

-- Alexander Fraser Tytler (1742-1813)

[sam_paine]

ScottinVA: The feds use the lowest possible number, with the minimal factors involved to get to that 8.6%. By election time, it'll be engineered down to below 8%. This is one of the huge advantages Obama has.. a low bar to cross, only having to provide the sheeple with enough "evidence" that we've turned the corner.

I see this complaint often, but we have only ourselves to blame. The "feds" (BLS) publish the real numbers quite openly CLICK HERE. WE are the ones who accept Axelrod's marketing terms. The MSM uses both as needed to make things look better or worse, and our side goes right along with it talking about "above or below 8%."

U1: Percentage of labor force unemployed 15 weeks or longer.
U2: Percentage of labor force who lost jobs or completed temporary work.
U3: Official unemployment rate per the ILO definition occurs when people are without jobs and they have actively looked for work within the past four weeks.[2]
U4: U3 + "discouraged workers", or those who have stopped looking for work because current economic conditions make them believe that no work is available for them.
U5: U4 + other "marginally attached workers", or "loosely attached workers", or those who "would like" and are able to work, but have not looked for work recently.
U6: U5 + Part time workers who want to work full time, but cannot due to economic reasons (underemployment).

Note: "Marginally attached workers" are added to the total labour force for unemployment rate calculation for U4, U5, and U6. 
The BLS revised the CPS in 1994 and among the changes the measure representing the official unemployment rate was renamed U3 instead of U5.[80]

[Smokin' Joe]

Thanks, sam, that’s more like what I thought the numbers would look like.