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Israeli Jets, Sub 'Strike in Sudan'
Arutz Sheva ^ | 25/12/11 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 12/25/2011 9:23:21 AM PST by Eleutheria5

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To: bushpilot1

Everyone was already at the Ron Paul picnic.


21 posted on 12/25/2011 1:04:43 PM PST by GWConservative (Fire Obama! Or extradite him to Mexico with Holder.)
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To: Eleutheria5; kabar; VanDeKoik
Oddly enough, an Israeli official publicly called on the Iranians to strike Osirak after the beginning of hostilities between Iraq and Iran. During the Osirak raid, called Operation Opera, they pretended to be Saudis over Jordan and Jordanians over Saudi Arabia, using each nation's arab dialects, call signs, and flying formations.

However, it's doubtful the Sudanese have anything sophisticated in the area of air defense/detection requiring such subterfuge. Egypt is currently occupied with internal issues. I wouldn't be surprised if their post-Mubarak command structure has had an effect on reaction/competency.

I find the timing and possible use of a submarine interesting. Israel has been conducting air exercises with other Mediterranean nations. Iran is in the midst of a naval excercise.

Whatever the reason for the strike, I'm sure it was important and legitimate. It's also a pretty good opportunity for a warm up act if the head east next time.

22 posted on 12/25/2011 1:39:58 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: Eleutheria5

how did the Israelis get a sub into the air over Sudan?


23 posted on 12/25/2011 1:54:00 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: DoughtyOne
...these nations may have decided it was smarter to act as if nothing really happened.

Like Syria after Sept. 6, 2007

24 posted on 12/25/2011 1:59:29 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: RitchieAprile
how did the Israelis get a sub into the air over Sudan?

Fourth-generation stealth technology.

Cheers!

...oh, and Merry Christmas.

25 posted on 12/25/2011 2:39:47 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Curiously, Iran and the Sudan seem to be mum on what we believe were military strikes.

Rather than confront a country you know will kick your ass, these nations may have decided it was smarter to act as if nothing really happened.

Sort of like how Syria never uttered a peep after Israel destroyed their nuclear site a couple of years ago.

Mark

26 posted on 12/25/2011 2:49:31 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: RitchieAprile

Ancient Hebrew secret.


27 posted on 12/25/2011 3:33:01 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: kabar
Actually, they could fly along the Gulf of Aqaba out over the Red Sea. Although Saudi Arabia or Egypt might claim that air space. Don't know.


28 posted on 12/25/2011 4:35:53 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Eleutheria5
A truck was targeted. Some reports say an Israeli submarine was also spotted at the same time.

Just out of curiousity, how would a typical Sudanese spotter know if a sub he spotted was Israeli or someone else's?

29 posted on 12/25/2011 9:13:49 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: SJackson
A Israeli Submarine was spotted... B"H What? Did they have an Israeli flag hissed when they emerged?
30 posted on 12/25/2011 11:50:26 PM PST by OddLane (If Lionel Hutz and Guy Smiley had a lovechild together, his name would be "Mitt Romney." -KAJ)
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To: Eleutheria5
Israel does not comment on reports of overseas actions such as these.

Alleged overseas actions.
Anyway, good for Israel. I wouldn't comment to the stinking press, either.

32 posted on 12/26/2011 1:55:21 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Shadow44
>>They’re practicing for the big one, Iran<<

There is so much behind the veil the public does not see. Full scale bombing raids have got to be imminent.

The recent explosions in Iran were precursors. Actions like this one in Sudan appears to be Israels work to limit arms to the muzzies that will eventually attack when bombing raids over Iran begin.

I just hope the U.S. ponies up to help our friends in Israel.

33 posted on 12/26/2011 6:14:01 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: kabar

Yes, though it is in range they did have to use tankers.


34 posted on 12/26/2011 7:33:00 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: kabar
"I wonder whose air space Israeli used to attack Sudan. I am suspicious of the validity of this report. "

The same route El Al uses when it flies to Nairobi.

IDF jets routinely fly training missions over the Red Sea, accessed via the Gulf of Aqaba. Military aircraft flying that route would not raise any suspicions, because they happen all the time....and that's one of the reasons for Israel repeatedly flying those missions.

35 posted on 12/26/2011 8:15:43 AM PST by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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To: VanDeKoik
"They don’t exactly have the ability to sneak that stuff without the muzzies tipping off the bad guys."

That assumes military aircraft flying down Aqaba to the Red Sea is an unusual event. It's a common event, for obvious reasons.

36 posted on 12/26/2011 9:06:00 AM PST by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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To: Eleutheria5
However, the Sudanese army spokesman, Col. Al-Sawarmi Haled Sa'ad, said that the military's air defense array gave no indication that the country's airspace had been breached.

Air defense? Their air defense consists of a couple of goat herders sitting on rooftops and trying not to fall asleep.

37 posted on 12/26/2011 9:26:02 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

But they swore on the Koran that they didn’t fall asleep, and didn’t see anything.


38 posted on 12/26/2011 1:16:28 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

15 posted on Sunday, December 25, 2011 12:56:20 PM by Slings and Arrows: “Note to smugglers: Do not **** with the Israelis. They take it personally.”

Go Israel! Thank you for taking care of the job we won’t do.


39 posted on 12/26/2011 1:55:59 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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