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Is it rational to believe in God?
Jakarta Post/Yahoo Philippines ^ | Giovanni Serritella

Posted on 12/22/2011 4:54:48 PM PST by WilliamIII

The world's most famous physicist Prof. Stephen Hawking has declared that God does not exist.

Hawking joins the opinion of several other world-class scientists like Richard Dawkins, Peter Atkins, James Watson, Victor Stenger and many others who deny the existence of God in the name of the latest advancements in physics, biology and other scientific domains. The so-called "New Atheism" (championed by Richard Dawkins) sees God as a delusion, a by product of the mind of superstitious and scientifically uneducated people. "Because there is a law like gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing ... Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists and why we are here". This is the conclusion of The Grand Design, Hawking's latest book.

...Hawking states that a "law of gravity" exists and this (not God) creates the universe. Hawking surely also believes that gravity itself exists (since a law of gravity without "gravity" to describe would be meaningless). Now, if we say that X creates Y, we must presuppose the existence of X in the first place to bring Y into existence. Likewise, we must presuppose the existence of gravity to bring the universe into existence.

But Einstein's theory of relativity shows that this is illogical because it is like saying that gravity existed "before time" which is absurd. Did gravity spontaneously generate itself then?

(Excerpt) Read more at ph.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: faith
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1 posted on 12/22/2011 4:54:51 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

There is no other path to rationality, evolution having been overwhelmingly debunked over the past few decades.


2 posted on 12/22/2011 4:57:43 PM PST by varmintman
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To: WilliamIII

***Is it rational to believe in God?***

Let’s ask God.


3 posted on 12/22/2011 4:57:59 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: WilliamIII

The better question is, “Is it rational not to believe in God?”


4 posted on 12/22/2011 4:58:07 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: WilliamIII

Somebody had to create “spontaneous creation” AND gravity. Who?!


5 posted on 12/22/2011 4:58:11 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: WilliamIII

Is it rational not to?


6 posted on 12/22/2011 4:58:44 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Somebody had to create “spontaneous creation” AND gravity. Who?!

Who created God?

7 posted on 12/22/2011 5:00:06 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: WilliamIII

It’s turtles all the way down.


8 posted on 12/22/2011 5:00:06 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: WilliamIII

Better question is whether it is rational to believe in causeless effects.


9 posted on 12/22/2011 5:00:46 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: WilliamIII

Does it make any sense that a bunch of matter from a big bang, swirled together into a primordial goo and sprouted life?

Where the heck did the matter come from?


10 posted on 12/22/2011 5:02:14 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Doe Eyes

I think a better question would be, is their more than one with each having their own universe.


11 posted on 12/22/2011 5:02:54 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: WilliamIII
Is it rational to believe in God?

No, not unless you see that just about everything in nature has intelligent design. Then it's rational to believe in God.

What's most difficult is not necessarily believing in the existence of a Creator, but in His plan of reconciliation with man by the grace of one, Jesus Christ. His free gift of forgiveness and reconciliation with a perfect God is very hard indeed to rationalize, because it doesn't compute in man's mind that requires justification for wrongs. I kind of think that's the stumbling block with people.

12 posted on 12/22/2011 5:03:10 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: WilliamIII

Merry Christmas Hawking. Enjoy your mental masturbation, alone...


13 posted on 12/22/2011 5:03:59 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Doe Eyes

One day you will get to ask Him.


14 posted on 12/22/2011 5:04:04 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Somebody had to create “spontaneous creation” AND gravity. Who?!

Don't look at me, I didn't!

15 posted on 12/22/2011 5:04:05 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: WilliamIII
IMHO, the best way to understanding God (and making a determination as to his existence) is by learning about his son.

Read and listen--really listen--to what Yeshuah said.

Take some time to take everything he said to heart. If you don't walk away believing in the power and the truth of his statements...you will be quite different from most humans.

Yeshuah tells us the Truth...it is self evident. A world based on things not told by Yeshuah is not a world that has any appeal...it is not a world that works (there is no justice...no right or wrong).

Is faith required? Yes. Is faith a gamble? Yes.

Is faith in God and Yeshuah the Hinge...that thing on which the universe hangs.

Dig into it and see for yourself.

And be rational and empirical about it. Go at it like your eternity depends on it.

17 posted on 12/22/2011 5:04:46 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Doe Eyes

Whoaa! you just blew my mind!


18 posted on 12/22/2011 5:04:46 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: WilliamIII

Psalm 53 KJV

1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.


19 posted on 12/22/2011 5:05:04 PM PST by Graybeard58 (No Obama, No Romney, No Paul, No Huntsman. We can do better than that!)
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To: WilliamIII

I have a Nephew who has two PHDs, one in Cosmology and the other in Physics. He is a grad of the University of Chicago.

I recall at a family gathering, he was discussing famous scientists such as Teller, Einstein and Hawking. He said among physicists Hawking is considered just another smart guy. If he had not overcome such a terrible handicap, he would not be known just on his ideas.


20 posted on 12/22/2011 5:05:19 PM PST by yarddog
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