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1 posted on 12/22/2011 9:39:09 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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Newt needs to beat Romney in Iowa.

A Ron Paul win is more or less meaningless since it will be the last state that he wins. If Newt beats Ron Paul (and Romney) that would be, IMHO, a big deal. If Romney beats Newt in Iowa then that is going to cause a bit of glitch in the money raising but Gingrich will survive to make it to SC and FL where he should win with pretty good margins.


2 posted on 12/22/2011 9:43:33 AM PST by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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Weekly Standard. Another propaganda rag of the country club, eastern establishment republicans. Piss on it and anyone associated with it.


3 posted on 12/22/2011 9:43:42 AM PST by Jukeman (Not Romney, not now, not ever!)
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Oh my >_>

The only thing I can gather from this “race” is that we don’t have a viable candidate.

I keep hearing various people saying “any” of them are better than Obama, which to me is just another way of saying “none” of them stand out in any way...but hey that’s just me


4 posted on 12/22/2011 9:44:46 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Over 9 MILLION dollars have been spent by Romney, Paul and their supporters attacking Newt in Iowa!!!
This is from Newt’s site.
However, since this was the last debate before the Iowa caucus on January 3rd, we are no longer going to be able to rely on Newt’s extraordinary debate performances to drive his positive message. The $9 million in negative advertising launched by Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and their supporters against Speaker Gingrich is starting to have an impact and we need the resources necessary to respond on the air in Iowa.


6 posted on 12/22/2011 9:47:01 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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The oldest President inaugurated was Ronnie Reagan (69). RP will be 77 if/when he is inaugurated. Ain’t gonna happen...


7 posted on 12/22/2011 9:48:20 AM PST by donozark (Ron Paul! You magnificent bastard! I read your book! (cook book that is))
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The data collected between Dec. 8 and 18

A poll with responses from Dec. 13th (on avg) reported on Dec. 22nd in such a fast-changing race is substantially outdated.

9 posted on 12/22/2011 9:48:57 AM PST by Crichton
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This poll is a testament to just how P***ed off the conservation electorate is and both the kenyan usurper and the the RINO dung that is Mitt and Newt....Ron Paul is a kook no doubt about it, but right now I am rooting for a paul will in iowa. Maybe just maybe it will make an opening for Santorum or Bachmann or maybe another conservative will enter the fray????


10 posted on 12/22/2011 9:49:34 AM PST by ohiobuckeye1997
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Newt will beat Romney, but the Libtards are dead set on disrupting the primary by showing up in force and nominating Ron Paul - I agree with alot that RP stands for, but I want someone that can beat Obummer; and its not Romney ...


11 posted on 12/22/2011 9:49:47 AM PST by 11th_VA (Keep your laws OFF my light bulbs !)
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a sign of the times.. 2012’s chickens coming home to roost


12 posted on 12/22/2011 9:53:38 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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The Paultards have certainly infiltrated Iowa. What ever he is putting into those ads he has been running against Newt, they must have put something in the water as well.

I still doubt the validity of these polls, knowing the nature of the Paul fanatics.

But there is a silver lining in all of this. Romney is still way behind Newt and if Paul does win Iowa, that is as far as he will get. Newt will still have beaten Romney and will head into the more important states with momentum.

Romney has also become rather over confident and has been shooting his mouth off rather carelessly, trying to nudge himself over to pick up Liberal Obama voters. In other words, Romney will end up being his own worse enemy.

13 posted on 12/22/2011 9:56:14 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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Why do 25% of the independents get a say in the GOP primary?


14 posted on 12/22/2011 9:57:09 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Since Obama's only challengers in 2012 are in the GOP debates, include him the next 15.)
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Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha everybody has been dragging him down for months, yet all he does is win. The American people want their country back. You have been served notice. Not a single step backward. Not one!


15 posted on 12/22/2011 9:58:32 AM PST by STD (Cut Taxes, Cut Spending Stupid!)
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It looks like Newt is on the rebound. I saw a very similar poll that went unreported. So maybe all the negative attacks are starting to backfire. The Paul numbers are probably from dimoKKKRAT crossovers. Not much can be done about that in this election cycle. GO NEWT!


16 posted on 12/22/2011 9:58:41 AM PST by Parley Baer
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Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha everybody has been dragging him down for months, yet all he does is win. The American people want their country back. You have been served notice. Not a single step backward. Not one!


17 posted on 12/22/2011 9:58:51 AM PST by STD (Cut Taxes, Cut Spending Stupid!)
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Ron Paul is also the unpaid apologist for al Qaeda.


20 posted on 12/22/2011 10:01:15 AM PST by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
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Can’t be true. Jeff Su posted this on the TX board earlier today - but was ZOTTED http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/profile?u=382108 in short order.


Jeff Su 12/22/2011 8:16:24 AM PST

The new republican primary Reuters/Zogby/Ipsis poll is out!

Huntsman 39%
Newt 16%
Romney 12%
McCain 10%
Bachmann 8%
Perry 6%
Paul 4%
Palin 2%
Cain 1%
Santorum 1%
Other/none 1%

Huntsman is the one candidate who can beat Obama in the general 52-43%. The rest lose.

HUNTSMAN
HUNTSMAN
HUNTSMAN

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21 posted on 12/22/2011 10:02:42 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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"Lacey things, the wife is missing.
Didn't ask, for her permission
I'm wearing her clothes,
With immaculate hair.
Walking around in Romney underwear.

In the store, there's a teddy.
With little straps, like spaghetti.
It holds me so tight,
like handcuffs at night.
Walking around in Romney underwear

In the office there's a guy named Ron Paul.
He pretends that I am Murphy Brown.
He'll say "Are you ready?"
I'll say, "Woah man! Lets wait until the wife is out of town."

Later on, if you wanna,
We can giggle, like Madonna.
Put on some eye shade, and join the parade.
Walking around in Romney underwear.

Lacey things,the wife is missing.
Didn't ask, for her permission.
Wearing her clothes, with immaculate hair.
Walking around in Romney underwear.
Walking around in Romney underwear.
Walking around in Romney underwear......"

(Apologies to Bob Rivers)

22 posted on 12/22/2011 10:04:05 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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If this poll is correct and that is what the voters of Iowa feel then there is no hope for America.
27 posted on 12/22/2011 10:17:29 AM PST by Logical me
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Not sure about others, but I’ve read Paul’s foreign policy proposal and as brief as it is doesn’t sound like a surrender monkey to me:

* Make securing our borders the top national security priority.

* Avoid long and expensive land wars that bankrupt our country by using constitutional means to capture or kill terrorist leaders who helped attack the U.S. and continue to plot further attacks.

* Guarantee our intelligence community’s efforts are directed toward legitimate threats and not spying on innocent Americans through unconstitutional power grabs like the Patriot Act.

* End the nation-building that is draining troop morale, increasing our debt, and sacrificing lives with no end in sight.

* Follow the Constitution by asking Congress to declare war before one is waged.

* Only send our military into conflict with a clear mission and all the tools they need to complete the job – and then bring them home.

* Ensure our veterans receive the care, benefits, and honors they have earned when they return.

* Revitalize the military for the 21st century by eliminating waste in a trillion-dollar military budget.

* Prevent the TSA from forcing Americans to either be groped or ogled just to travel on an airplane and ultimately abolish the unconstitutional agency.

* Stop taking money from the middle class and the poor to give to rich dictators through foreign aid.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/national-defense/


42 posted on 12/22/2011 11:13:49 AM PST by ccwman
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The real test will be if the Paul people bestir their sorry butts to get out on a freezing night and spend hours in a townhall forum. If they behave as they normally do, they will end up turning off more of their neighbors than they will persuade to support Paul.

You can bet the Romney people will be there, as will the evangelicals, but the latter seems hopelessly split among the various candidates.


43 posted on 12/22/2011 11:16:31 AM PST by EDINVA
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