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To: SevenofNine; TigerLikesRooster; caww; Jet Jaguar; mkjessup
Reports coming out now (source, Yomiuri news in Japan) of foreign students in Pyongyang, such as from China, having weird experiences.

One of them was this:

Got on a train at Pyongyang to leave DPRK for China, but upon being told Kim Jong il was dead, NEVERTHELESS DID NOT CRY, and were accordingly pulled off the train by Public Security Bureau people and not allowed to go. They were then only allowed back on the train when they would cry publicly by copying and feigning the crying that was going on around them by others, by North Koreans. This is a mass staged event folks (no surprise), but foreigners are leaking it, which is great source information.

DPRK is also encouraging foreigners to leave Japan and ramping up efforts for them to get out, and foreign students at Kim Il Sung university are being told by their instructors to not go out, stay inside, not mingle with people outside, etc. etc. in connection with Kim's death. There were some reports of foreigners turned back from public mourning places, when they wanted to show up and watch or bring flowers. Obviously the new regime is worried about unauthorized information flows, tweets, hidden cameras and facebook, that kind of thing (if possible, I guess one would need a sat phone, or some way to record, microchip it, and get it out of the country or upload it somehow from a machine with an international connection...very risky indeed). There were other reports (which I kind of predicted) that the North Koreans working at the Kaesong joint North-South industrial complex, were not showing any necessarily heavy signs of stress or sadness over Kim Jong il, once that story leaks, they may shut those places down, or have guidance meetings to train and force them to start crying on the job in front of South Korean managers there. I am afraid that unlike 1994, they just are not going to be able to in this age control information flows and keep the goings on a complete secret)....Bottom line, there is no true grief up ther except perhaps only in the closest family and Party circles, but certainly not by the average North Korean. It is all a big show. Vigorously cry publicly, or be summarily tortured, imprisoned, or executed. Your choice.

696 posted on 12/20/2011 7:06:08 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: jhpigott

Bump. Forgot you.


697 posted on 12/20/2011 7:07:02 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I not suprise I think they telling everybody CRY OR ELSE go to Gulgug that what I thinking right now

That weird

Here kicker they not allow foreign diplomat come to funeral I never hear that before did Soviets did that back in da day I think George Bush Sr went all Russia leader funeral


698 posted on 12/20/2011 7:10:20 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
....Bottom line, there is no true grief up ther except perhaps only in the closest family and Party circles, but certainly not by the average North Korean. It is all a big show....... Vigorously cry publicly, or be summarily tortured, imprisoned, or executed. Your choice.

And the Leadership really expects the world will buy this parade of sorrow?.... I'm not convinced it's only for the world show...rather once again to instill fear into the people that the leadership expects compliance to every whim regardless of the change in command.

...can you imagine the rage these people have within them and no way to release it except thru "allowable" tears? I tend to think some of this is very real but has nothing to do with Kim's death.

699 posted on 12/20/2011 7:43:52 PM PST by caww
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Bump and thanks for posting that.


752 posted on 12/21/2011 5:06:18 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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