To: sam_paine
ITS AN UNMANNED DRONE.
IT'S NOT AUTONOMOUS. IT STILL HAS A PILOT VIA AVIONICS. IN NEVADA.
Except that pilot in Nevada would not be able to be coerced into landing for his own safety, and the safety of his crew.
man vs unmanned < You brought that up with snark, so finish it. I finished it when I said the same thing earlier that I just said above.
Why would a downed manned spyplane be better in this situation? Other than my not making the case that it would be better, I wouldn't know. When you referenced this point the first time, I made the case that I didn't think it would be better to have manned surveylance aircraft. Here you are still pounding on a point I never intended to make.
We have a contingent that wants our military aircraft to become unmanned, doing away with manned flight. That's what I was addressing when you misunderstood my comments and ran with it the first time.
I responded that I had never intended to have spy planes manned. Here's a link to the comment I made. Note that I did not reference drone spy aircraft. LINK Here's where I stated I would agree with you if all were were talking about was surveylance aircraft, but we actually weren't. LINK Here is where you first introduced the manned P3-Orion to contrast with the drone. I hadn't brought up the subject of defending manned aircraft prior to that, and never defended it for surveyance aircraft. LINK
forced down vs a software or technical method < Both end up as NEARLY IDENTICAL diplomatic nightmares and espionage treasure trove Except the aircraft is unmanned. Oh, ah, uh, um, I guess there is that huh.
spies in our headquarters vs Chinese Airforce < War by other means Except that one includes members of the military on board. Oh, ah, uh, um, I guess there is that huh.
diplomats vs USAF pilots???? < Back to step one. Not really, back to you being completely in over your head, not grasping what is being discussed, AGAIN!
Suppose it had been a manned mission downed, and they had our pilots too. That would look...gee whiz...a lot like Islamist extremists holding Americans hostage under a Dem President, in, golly, 1979. In the land of make believe, where your whole line of reasoning has resided up to this point, I agree. Unfortuantely that is not the reality we were discussing. We are discussing an unmanned drone vs a manned P3-Orion.
See how different elements can have multiple similarities and differences? WOW! What I see is a person that is unable to stay on topic, grasp that manned and unmanned aircarft are different, or grasp that the drone was not forced down due to threat and the P3-Orion was. Other than that, you are making excellent points, if we were talking Alice in Wonderland. We're not.
Are you able to have a discussion on more than a single level, or are you just intentionally stirring the pot without a sarc tag which is a flame war tactic prohibited by the Jimrob Conventions of 2001.
This from a guy that has tried to state he brought up a downed manned aircraft to contrast with an unmanned drone.
127 posted on
12/15/2011 3:42:57 PM PST by
DoughtyOne
(Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
To: DoughtyOne
You don’t understand the terms compare and contrast. Bless your heart. Good night.
128 posted on
12/15/2011 3:47:39 PM PST by
sam_paine
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