Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 12/10/2011 6:37:42 AM PST by Hojczyk
Gee, this is so conveeeeeeeenient for the EPA. I hate those f***ers.
Pinging the Agenda 21 folks!
This regards the EPA’s recent comments/findings regarding fracking and drinking water. Supposedly they havent found evidence of fracking affecting the water, but “The EPA, however, is worried that this may change.”
Pinging the Agenda 21 folks!
This regards the EPA’s recent comments/findings regarding fracking and drinking water. Supposedly they havent found evidence of fracking affecting the water, but “The EPA, however, is worried that this may change.”
My apologies. I forgot to say the following in the above post:
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The EPA cannot be worried.
It is an abstract concept of an ‘agency,’ itself a word that, in this case, is not acting in the best interest of the people of the US.
Good point!
Thanks for the ping!
It needs to be mentioned that in Wyoming, there are hydrologic basins where finding drinking water is a very hit-or-miss proposition. Example: There are water wells east of Sheridan that have pathetic yields (2GPM) and horrible, marginal quality. Some people have to drill between 600 to 1200 feet to obtain this pathetic water quality. Reckon on about $20/foot to drill, case and develop a well. That does NOT include the column, pump and headworks on the well.
The local muni area water system uses only surface water which is fed by snowmelt in the Big Horn Mountains for the local water system. There’s no point in drilling muni water wells to only find out about poor yields and horrible quality.
There is no fraking the area, there are however seams of coal and methane in attendance, which percolate all throughout the various strata of the earth hundreds of feet down. We looked at one ranch east of Clearmont, WY, where the cattle water well has methane bubbling to the surface of an artesian well. The rancher captures the methane with an overturned 30-gallon drum on the wellhead in a stock tank, and pipes that off for ranch use.... and the cattle will drink the water in the tanks downstream after it has sat there for a week or so to off-gas.
Now, as a comparison, in Nevada’s alluvial fill basins, you can typically drill anywhere from only 60 to 200 feet and obtain wonderful tasting water in many (most?) basins, with only the problem of slightly higher-than-spec arsenic levels (eg, 11 to 49 ppb). But no salts, no hydrocarbons, etc. Fracking for ANY purpose (whether to improve water yields from a well by fracturing caliche’ layers) or for oil development purposes is banned in Nevada, because their geology is such that you could easily couple various layers bearing water. I wanted to frac a water well with some det cord to improve irrigation well yields (from about 800 GPM to what I estimated would have been 1200+ GPM), but the state engineer told me “It is strictly forbidden, and if you do, we’re gonna make an example of you.” Then they were nice enough to explain why they had the state law.... and I agree with their reasons.
The upshot is that no one can draw blanket conclusions, nor make high-confidence predictions about what will happen with or without frak’ing in a hydrologic basin. In the west, ground water hydrology is complicated stuff. In some areas, I don’t see how the ground water could be made much worse with frac’ing fluid for oil or gas development. In other areas, there should be absolute bans on any injection of non-purified water into the ground.
True.
Fracking for ANY purpose (whether to improve water yields from a well by fracturing caliche’ layers) or for oil development purposes is banned in Nevada,
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Hydraulic Fracturing Stress Measurements at Yucca Mountain, Nevada, and Relationship to the Regional Stress Field
http://europa.agu.org/?uri=/journals/jb/JB090iB10p08691.xml&view=article
Hydraulic Fracturing from Mine-Back to diagnostics (Nevada)
http://www.corelab.com/pe/protechnics/pdf/protechnics_pdf/publications/newsletter/2004/ECWinter04.pdf
Nevada Administrative Code NAC 522.505 Form 4: Sundry notices and reports on wells.
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-522.html
Form 4 must be used to:
... (4) A shooting, acidizing or fracture treating.
CHECKLIST FOR STIMULATION PROGRAM, ACID TREATMENTS, AND FRAC JOBS
http://minerals.state.nv.us/forms/ogg/forms/OGG_ChecklistForStimulationProgram_20090310.pdf
From the Nevada Commission on Minerial Resource
OIL AND GAS WELL COMPLETION REPORT
http://minerals.state.nv.us/forms/ogg/forms/OG_WellCompletionRpt_FI20110407.pdf
Which includes a line for listing the explosives used.
Here is a 2004 Nevada Oil and Gas Well Database which includes descriptions of which wells are fractured
http://www.nbmg.unr.edu/dox/of041.pdf
Here is a company in Henderson Nevada selling Hydraulic Fracturing Equipment and services for Agriculture use
http://www.northernagriservices.com/hydraulic_fracturingindex.html
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