Posted on 12/09/2011 7:10:27 PM PST by Hoodat
Better get that one copyrighted.
You used the term FORCE as if the government would be involved
Me.
Some good ideas contained here — a lot of common sense.
Thanks. I've written two books dealing with environmental policy. The first proposed a free-market environmental management system. Managing land is all about competing risks, so it was based upon using insurance to account for intangible or unpredictable risks out of which came a business method patent. Extending those ideas to a range of other societal problems wasn't that hard.
During the Bill Simon debacle in California, Arnold Schwarzenegger successfully sold the claim that there is such a thing as a "fiscal conservative" without social conservatism. As a result, I put together a booklet of such stuff about eight years ago in the hope that I could get people to understand HOW conservatism solves real societal problems.
Nobody would read it because it covered so many issues that it was too much to think about in one go. They'd start, get excited, and crash and burn. It was meant to be considered one issue at a time. I was hoping to empower grass roots activists with ideas that they could either print out and share or distribute by email but it just didn't get any traction. So I never finished it. This was just one of them.
It would have made good column or blog material, but I have too much on my plate to manage all that. Oh well.
I am trying to think of something to say to refute you...
The alternative is four more years of 0.
No, I’d rather others pick it up and use it as well. Besides, I’m fairly certain I’m not the first to say it on here.
“The body is the temple of the Holy Spirit” “you are not your own”. The Spirit owns the body.
No one, no organization, no so called “insurance company” , no government, no judge, no insurance company invested in the CDO bank scam, no financial lobby, no government insurance lobby, no bureau, no agency, no 2700 pages, no 300 pages, no 10 pages, not any page,..has any say in the body, but the Holy Spirit Himself.
The Spirit dwells within.
Ever heard of market “forces?” Wow. Never seen so many people obsess over one word. A free market WOULD FORCE them to set their price where people can afford it. You people are the one’s who assumed government or I would force them to do something against their will...I didn’t say it. It’s not my fault you can’t read English.
Yeah. Ever heard of "market forces?" A free market would force them to accept what people could afford to pay.
And by the way, thanks for spreading your ignorance far and wide and forcing me to undo the damage by tracking down everyone you pinged with your crap, a$$hat.
Was lots right here at FR that trashed her. She deserved more support is all I am saying!
Except that auto repair shops as well as many other businesses are now 'organized' into their own unions...Their labor rates are all pretty much identical...
They go to a book to see how long the repair should take and charge you that rate...It the repair takes too long, they'll add something to it so they don't lose money...
If the repair is too quick, they charge you according to how long the book says the job 'should' take...
Same with junk yards...There's a 'blue book' for used parts...
Same with new cars...Same with wash machines...
There's no such thing as competition anymore...
I suspect it's the same with doctors and hospitals...
Medicare is especially prone to the latter. Patients are prohibited from negotiating a price from a provider. The patient finds that the doctor is no longer willing to accept the price that Medicare pays, yet the patient is prohibited by law from increasing the price offered from his/her own pocket.
As a rule, in any system where a fully competitive market (many buyers, many sellers, easy access to the market) is replaced by oligopolist forces, the end consumer suffers. Unfortunately, this most basic of economic principles is beyond the comprehension of the smartest man in the room - N. Leroy Gingrich.
It’s getting to the point where there is only one thing that matters, who would Newt appoint to the Supreme Court. Most of his policies are utter crap, but the only saving grace he has is who would his choices for the Supreme Court be, that’s the question that needs to be answered.
I would up the ante and find out which Senate candidates would be willing to remove Kagan from the bench after impeachment.
Thank you, that's what I'm talking about. I've been called a communist and a marxist on this thread for advocating free market reforms, lol.
In fact, your whole essay reads like a presentation fit for pre-educating any buyer intellectually interested enough to actually read it for comprehension, let alone put any of it into use in their lifestyle.
The concept of "prevention" saving everybody from everything is only possible with GovernMental Nannying and nagging as in Mcgruff, the crime dog. In crime prevention, we could never afford to put cops on every corner to eliminate some forms of obviously common misdemeanors. Likewise, living in aging bodies with slowly developing minds from the get-go is certainly not going to become more cost effective with GovernMental administration and penetration into the most minute corners of everyone's lives. Now that's truly insane!!!
That also coincides with the title of your article. Again I have played "straight man," or at least "trigger man" for you to release your excellent ability to distill great vistas of human existance and overwhelming issues into a really cogent essay that really makes good sense. Of course it surely helps have a family member directly involved in the issue at the business end!!!
“If I had my way I would outlaw health insurance and force doctors and hospitals to accept what people could afford to pay.”
Since I was pinged here by both of you, My reply is intended for both of you.
The part about “what people could afford to pay” wasn’t what I focused on. It was “If I had my way I would outlaw health insurance and force doctors and hospitals to accept”.
My reading of that was that you, ez, as an individual would dictate the abolishment of health insurance and you would dictate that doctors and hospitals were forbidden to set their own rates for services. Is not that the role of a king or some other absolute ruler?
As I read other posts on this thread by you, you explained your words to mean you were supporting free markets and market forces. It would have been easier for everyone if you had said that in the first place.
If there is no third party, who is "forcing" the doctors?
"force doctors and hospitals to accept what people could afford to pay."
You might as well say, "Force people to pay doctors and hospitals what they want to charge."
The free enterprise system does not involve "force". If people want your goods or services, they must pay. If they can't pay they don't get the goods or services. P>Healthcare is often a life or death proposition. but people who invested huge amounts of effort and sacrifice to become doctors deserve to be commensurately compensated and the amount should not be "forced" on them.
Sorry but “The Great Society” was LBJ’s big thang... Nixon was bad enough without wrapping him in another TX president’s liberal spending BS!!!
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