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To: giotto

The constitution is not a suicide document.


3 posted on 12/09/2011 7:08:01 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: Jonty30
The constitution is not a suicide document.

Please cite for me, Article and Section, of the US Constitution that gives either the Legislative or the Executive branch the specific, enumerated power to strip American citizens of their 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendment rights.

Thanks in advance.

L

8 posted on 12/09/2011 7:15:51 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Jonty30

So in other words, NOT giving the president the power to disappear his political enemies, simply by labeling them “terrorists,” would be suicide? NOT strip searching 87 year old woman at airports would be suicide?


9 posted on 12/09/2011 7:16:21 PM PST by giotto
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To: Jonty30
The constitution is not a suicide document.

While the idea that waterboarding is torture is ridiculous, the quote "The constitution is not a suicide document" is a scary argument.

It presumes that the Constitution has problems that could get us killed, so it's OK to ignore these flaws if the need arises. That is exactly what the liberals argue. They think this "inherently flawed document" has to be ignored for the higher good of society.

If the Constitution could get us killed, then amend it! Once we justify violating the Constitution, then on what do we base the authority of the government? At that point, the government is acting without authority, and I do not trust the best government, let alone our government.

As for waterboarding, I know someone who was waterboarded by the US military. It was part of her training. So are these kooks who call it torture suggesting we're torturing our soldiers? If so, they should demand we stop torture during training.

12 posted on 12/09/2011 7:20:12 PM PST by ElectronVolt
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To: Jonty30
The constitution is not a suicide document.

That has yet to be seen. If I had been a delegate, I would have argued for a REQUIREMENT that any politician or government employee convicted of ANY crime, be hanged by the neck until dead.

That might have extended our most excellent run.

But as it is, the Constitution is pretty much a dead letter document, honored only in the breach.

I predict suicide for the former Republic, unless things change back to the founder's intent.

And if this one doesn't work out... we can write a new one, we have a history of doing that.

/johnny

19 posted on 12/09/2011 7:29:15 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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