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To: Jonty30
The constitution is not a suicide document.

While the idea that waterboarding is torture is ridiculous, the quote "The constitution is not a suicide document" is a scary argument.

It presumes that the Constitution has problems that could get us killed, so it's OK to ignore these flaws if the need arises. That is exactly what the liberals argue. They think this "inherently flawed document" has to be ignored for the higher good of society.

If the Constitution could get us killed, then amend it! Once we justify violating the Constitution, then on what do we base the authority of the government? At that point, the government is acting without authority, and I do not trust the best government, let alone our government.

As for waterboarding, I know someone who was waterboarded by the US military. It was part of her training. So are these kooks who call it torture suggesting we're torturing our soldiers? If so, they should demand we stop torture during training.

12 posted on 12/09/2011 7:20:12 PM PST by ElectronVolt
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To: ElectronVolt

It’s definitely a balancing act.

If the constitution literally stands in the way of finding out that somebody is going to drop a nuke on New York city, what do you do?

At the same time, how do you prevent the seizure of rights from becoming permanent.


14 posted on 12/09/2011 7:23:17 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: ElectronVolt

You are correct, waterboarding as torture is ridiculous. Waterboarding is forbidden by a later version of the Geneva accords as torture. However, this later version of the Geneva accords was never ratified by our Senate. We are not bound to it by law. So why all the misinformation by the Left about waterboarding as a prohibited action? Can’t we get the story straight?


57 posted on 12/09/2011 10:52:34 PM PST by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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