Then you support the abortionist candidate over the pro-life candidate.
Posted on 12/09/2011 1:31:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson
I posted the below in response to a FReeper who asked me what we should do in regards to progressives Newt and Romney. And he asked me what would George Washington do? So I got to thinking about why I've been gravitating towards Newt. In fact it kept me up for half the night.
Here is my reply:
Well, I’ll tell you, after Palin declined to run I really didn’t have a dog in this race. I liked Bachmann and Cain a lot, even Perry, but not as much as I liked Palin. Bachmann and Cain are both conservative enough, but neither have really been tested in higher office, nor do they have much experience in world affairs.
I also had high hopes for Perry because it looks like he’s done a great job in Texas, but his positions on the border issues turned off a lot of people. And his “heartless” statement didn’t win him much opportunity to turn that around.
I guess Santorum is conservative enough and possibly Huntsman, but neither engender much enthusiasm or excitement. Seems they’re just going through the motions. Don’t know if they have the real world experience to be CINC anyway.
Bachmann seems to be trying really hard but don’t know if she’s really qualified for the top spot either. Even so, had Bachmann really lit a fuse on the trail, I probably would have stood by and supported her, but she flopped and is unlikely to recover.
I thought early on that if Perry got into the race (without Palin) that he’d suck all the air out of it and would dominate. But he flopped. And then Cain took off like a rocket and he flopped.
Now Cain didn’t have elective experience, but he looked like a great conservative so we were all hoping and pulling for him. Well, that didn’t turn out well.
Mind you, that abortionist, lib progressive bastard Mitt Romney is just sitting there smiling through all this and he, Rove and the GOP elite think they’ve got it in the bag. Just gotta hang in there, not say anything rash, not rock the boat, no mistakes, just play defense as one by one the upstart tea party conservative candidates burn themselves out.
In my mind, we must defeat Romney AND Obama. I don’t think George Washington is going to be smiling down on us if we had this great tea party opportunity to knock off the progressives and we let Rove, Romney and the corrupt good old boys club bushwhack us. We’re supposed to be the bushwhackers.
So like a whole lot of conservative Republicans and tea party folks, we’re bouncing candidate to candidate looking for the one to knock off Romney so we can take the tea party battle directly to Obama. Romney is no tea party person. He and Rove, et al, sneer at us. No way in hell are they going to do anything we’re interested in doing even if they do get elected. It’ll be government as usual. Big. They hate us worse than they hate the democrats because we’re a direct threat to their power base.
So in comes Gingrich. Didn’t much care for him at first, mainly because of his well known baggage, and his perceived RINO plumage, but he began making a lot of sense and scoring a lot of points in the debates. Turns out his depth of knowledge and experience in government affairs both domestic and foreign and his experience with Ronald Reagan, the Reagan Revolution and the Republican Revolution of the 90’s are quite extensive and quite impressive if you look.
He’s been through the mill and that’s what a lot of our younger less experienced, less traveled candidates are missing. In the debates he comes off as a wiser, more experienced, more knowledgeable, level-headed senior statesman. And it appeared to me that the other candidates acknowledged and respected that.
So I start thinking back about his history as a congressman and speaker, and lo and behold, it appears to me he’s not such a RINO after all. He was a genuine Reagan protege. And he learned well from the master communicator. He eventually set a goal for himself to build a Republican majority and to take the speakership, and he determinately accomplished that goal.
And he had some great conservative accomplishments as congressman and speaker. He passed the contract with America. He cut taxes. Cut the deficit. Reformed welfare. Blocked HillaryCare. Became a thorn in President Clinton’s side, blocked much of his liberal agenda and ultimately allowed impeachment to proceed. Then of course, he resigned due to his own infidelity scandal. But, unlike Clinton, he didn’t deny it, didn’t lie about it, and he did the right thing by resigning.
Bottom line though, through his years with the Reagan Revolution and the Republican majority much conservative good was accomplished. The Wall came down, the Soviet Union collapsed and our great Reagan economy flourished for two decades.
Now, if a progressive RINO had been in charge of the congress during this period, who knows what would have happened. I’m sure the history would have been a lot different. Remember, before Gingrich and his Republican Majority, we conservatives had wandered in the wilderness for 40 years!! And our country was on life support after Jimmy Carter nearly killed it. And the democrats were saying at the time that there was nothing we could do about it. We were going to be stuck with the cold war. Stuck with the Soviet Union, stuck with Iran. Stuck with high oil prices, gas lines and rationing. Stuck with recession, high interest rates, high inflation and high unemployment from that point forward. They could not be fixed. Jimmy Carter and the democrats had given up on America and surrendered the USA to our fate as a failed nation.
In walk Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich and reestablish that great shining city on the hill! Thank God! It’s not the end of the world after all. Iran returns the hostages immediately. Reagan takes the Soviet Union head on! Reagan takes the democrats head on and doesn’t take no for an answer. Takes his ideas to the people. It was a struggle but eventually the economy began turning. Reagan’s central theme domestically was that the government was too big, too intrusive, taxes too high, too much spending, too many regulations, too many restrictions on business and industry and they all must be cut. And he took that battle over the heads of the democrat congress to the tax payers and they loved it. Sound familiar?
And in 1994, Newt Gingrich leads the charge against the democrats who had been in power for 40 years and the Republicans take the majority and Gingrich becomes Speaker. He dreams up the contract with America which was designed as an extension of the Reagan Revolution and and included items attempting to balance the budget, reform welfare, tort reform, term limits, line item veto, etc. Some of it was successfully implemented, some not. But under Gingrich they did cut the deficit and balance the budget four years running. Sound desirable? Sound progressive?
How many times in our history have you seen a liberal progressive, cut taxes, cut regulations, cut spending, cut welfare, balance the budget, block big government programs like HillaryCare, impeach a sitting president, etc?
Never! In other words, all this to say Newt is NO RINO!! He’s a pro-life, pro-small government, pro-national security, Reagan conservative!! In short, we’re desperate, and he’s exactly what we’re looking for, and he’s running head and shoulders over the rest of the field, so what the hell are we squabbling about?
Yes, Romney and Rove hate him, the Republican establishment elite ruling class hates him, the liberals hate him, the democrats hate him and they hate him for the same reasons the taxpayers will support him, the lovers of liberty will support him, the defenders of life will support him, the defenders of national security will support him, the lovers of the Reagan Revolution will support him, and we the tea party should support him!! He’s a tax cutting, budget balancing, strong defense, small government, pro-life Reagan CONSERVATIVE!!
After reviewing Newt vs Romney, George Washington would say, go, NEWT!!
I’ll take a chance with Newt. Over Romney? You betcha!!
What say you?
Then you support the abortionist candidate over the pro-life candidate.
If this is true about Romney, then NO I could not vote for the man at all. But that still doesn’t change my mind about Gingrich.
you say “but I would have rather seen the conservative base support “
Newt’s lifetime rating with the ACU
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2815398/posts
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64429.html
Just who on earth do you think all those people that are for him ARE?
Gonna make that my bumper sticker - even though it may wrap all the way around the car -
The Raw truth.
Unfortunately, the "Bush Wing" - the ivy League Establishment Cabal - strong armed Reagan into taking GHWB as his Veep and to appoint other Cabal picks into his other appointments - that way, they just had to wait out his term and they were back in the drivers seat.
They know Newt won't allow this. He has already signaled he'd like Col. WEst for Veep - and Col West is open to it and he said he'll ask Bolton to be his Sec. of State.
That has to have the Establishment heads spinning.
"President Gingrich" spells the end for the Establishment Cabal. The bubbles will be gone from their champagne.
false - and I suspect you know it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7VUg7nG3lw&feature=related
Newt on Global Warming - for those who can stand the truth - this clip answers where he stands - in HIS words
GREAT POST
You betcha! And we the people totally reject the establishment's business as usual choice. And they are incapable of understanding that. They never understood the implications or reason for 2010, and they're not going to know what hit them in 2012. We the people are determined to take our country back from the ruling class! I can see November from my house.
thanks for the link - am adding it to my “Newt Cache”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeRhTjvAkuQ
definitely one to share over and over -
So Perry for me, Perry/ Palin I would love more then anything.
As far as the General I pray it will be Rick Perry but if not God help us all and America. I have no idea who it would be and am terrified to even think that far ahead.
I hear ya. But my suggestion is to let this play out a little longer before Gingrich gets the feeling he’s gotten a blank check from conservatives.
You post: “Not much choice choosing between Gingrich and Romney, but if I have to choose it will be Romney. Down deep in my gut Gingrich is not to be trusted, even less than Romney!”
scroll down to paragraph beginning with “•On immigration, Romney could not have sounded tougher February 18 on ABC’s “This Week:”
and keep reading - if you have the stomach. At least know who your voting for
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=19672
The Federal government has NO BUSINESS being involved in education in any way. That is a state matter.
But, before we get to that chapter, -- Wow! Do you even bother to do any research, or do you just parrot what you read on some other candidate’s website? -- I'm sure you know that Fannie and Freddie have always cost taxpayers huge amounts of money, thus making every dollar FredFan spends a dollar that's essentially made possible because of federal unpriced benefits to GSEs.
In 1996, for example, the CBO said that federal unpriced benefits to GSEs (such as exemptions from state and local income taxes and, more importantly, use of the federal government's credit standing without paying a fee for that privilege) amounted to almost $7 billion annually. Again, note that that was in 1996 dollars.
So, yes, I should have been more clear that Gingrich was not paid with direct taxpayer funds. He was just paid with money earned by a GSE that cost the taxpayers billions a year -- even before the 2008 conservatorship -- and which GSE would have gone out of business without all that costly free stuff from the taxpayers to float its operating funds.
So if we, the taxpayers, were all that was keeping the GSEs from insolvency, whether our cold, hard cash actually was used to pay Gingrich millions to "build bridges to Republicans on Capitol Hill" is a distinction without a difference, in my view. That said, I agree with you that I could have made my point more clearly.
Finally, let's not forget that it was the already costly free stuff -- in particular, the cost-free use of the federal government's credit standing -- that helped lead to this horrendous taxpayer hit:
Fannie, Freddie execs score $100 million payday:
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac received the biggest federal bailout of the financial crisis. And nearly $100 million of those tax dollars went to lucrative pay packages for top executives, filings show. )
This might be a good place to ask, does anyone know the process for correcting wikipedia?
They’ve got the “death bed” meme on the Newt Gingrich page, in the first paragraph.
ping for later
I just got back from New Hampshire, to campaign for NEWT.
And several candidates have a great chance to finish ahead of ROMNEY in Iowa. I hear people talk about who they plan to vote for in their primary in April, but ...
The opportunity is now. WHy are people so reluctant to travel a few hours on the weekend and campaign? And you can really do quite much sitting at home calling a state.
Few are really participating in the process. We are all pundits now.
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