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Newt Gingrich - RINO or Genuine Pro-Life Reagan Conservative?
vanity | December 9, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 12/09/2011 1:31:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: big'ol_freeper

Perhaps you could draw the distintion between liberal women and conservative women. That way you wouldn’t come off as a jerk.


161 posted on 12/09/2011 4:25:30 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: Lakeshark

You get it, Lakeshark, you get it.

“Newt, you magnificent bastard!”

Great ending. ;>)


162 posted on 12/09/2011 4:25:57 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: onyx


163 posted on 12/09/2011 4:31:51 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: Raebie

Ad hominem attacks....admission you have no argument.

If it weren’t for women there never would have been a President Clinton nor a President Obama. Period.


164 posted on 12/09/2011 4:33:32 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson

I hope you are right. We really don’t have a great deal of choice. Newt is better than Romney because we know he can be molded and shaped by favorable opinion.

All I know this go round is that I cannot sit back and let Obama finish off the US. It my happen anyway. Look at how the left has invaded every nook and cranny of our lives. It frightens me. Indoctrination frightens me.

There isn’t much left to lose. I wish we could have done better this time, but we may have to take the best we can get and pray it works out.


165 posted on 12/09/2011 4:35:34 PM PST by dforest
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To: Jim Robinson

A few articles comparing Newt to Churchill:

http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=181725

http://bobmccarty.com/2011/12/07/newt-gingrich-americas-21st-century-churchill/

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284220/mcquaid-gingrich-resembles-churchill-brian-bolduc

Article from May 2011 about Newt’s chances of winning:

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-05-11/politics/29998115_1_ethics-charges-speaker-house-newt-gingrich


166 posted on 12/09/2011 4:42:17 PM PST by matthew fuller (Hey Buckwheat- What the Hell are we paying you for?...(GO NEWT!))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Like Myth, Noot is anybody you want him to be.

Indeed. It depends on who they are talking to on that particular day or occasion.


167 posted on 12/09/2011 4:47:46 PM PST by Ron H. (Be ready and look to the heavens for He is surely coming back, soon!)
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To: Jim Robinson

168 posted on 12/09/2011 4:47:57 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: fightinJAG

The surface reason Newt was pushed out of the speaker’s position was his affair.

The underlying (actual) reason is that, as speaker, he used his position to push the GOP house to the right. Insisting that they actually stay true to the promises they made in the Contract with America. That generated a lot of bad-will from more “seasoned” Republicans that were more worried about retaining their seats than getting things done.

You see the same dynamic with the “Tea Party” freshmen in the house. They were the target of a lot of wrath from other GOP congressmen, because they insisted on holding firm on their promises, instead of “being practical” and compromising their principles.


169 posted on 12/09/2011 4:48:20 PM PST by Brookhaven
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To: Shery

Newt is not for ObamaCare. He is committed to repeal it and repeal, abolish, rescind everything Obama.


170 posted on 12/09/2011 4:50:51 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Not all women. Unmarried women.

Why are they unmarried? Because they are young (Dem base), minority (Dem base) or radical feminist (Dem base).

It’s not because of their gender, it’s the demographic.


171 posted on 12/09/2011 4:57:35 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: fightinJAG

The record of actual accomplishments says it, not me. It’s not necessarily right or wrong, it just is.

I’ll take Newt’s record of actual accomplishments any day of the week over Mitt’s. They’re polar opposites.


172 posted on 12/09/2011 5:00:28 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Ron H.

Your chameleon is Romney. Newt has been a Reagan conservative all along. Doesn’t have to pretend to be pro-life or pretend to appreciate Reagan. Newt was there. Romney was in the land of denial


173 posted on 12/09/2011 5:04:24 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Raebie

You can divide males demographically also. Unless you believe somehow there are no young and minority and radical males.

Back to my original argument that you took objective to. Newt will not win a majority of the female vote, not because of his background but simply because he is Republican. He could be the pillar of virtue and he wouldn’t win a majority of women. Reagan was the last Republican male to win a majority of female voters...barely.

Married women vote liberal much more than married men. Unmarried women vote liberal much more than unmarried men. Men consistently vote in greater percentages for conservative candidates and women vote in greater percentages for liberal candidates.

And as would be expected, I am dealing with facts and you are dealing with emotion, which is the root of the problem.

It is not demographics, it is simply that a majority of women are unthinking idiots politically. (look up majority by the way...it does not mean all...unless you get all emotional about it)


174 posted on 12/09/2011 5:09:05 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Wow! Another very wise comment coming from one of my fellow freepers.

People are not accustomed to a politician who is a deep thinker and looks at complex solutions to the complex problems that America faces.

I think the American people have allowed themselves to be seduced by the simplistic sound-byte solutions that most candidates offer. The electorate is also not used to someone whom, as you said, is willing to toss ideas that he is not fully committed to around to be evaluated in the general discourse--and that is what gets him into trouble with some voters.

It is his record of actual accomplishments by which we must judge him and by that standard, he is an amazing individual.
175 posted on 12/09/2011 5:22:23 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: fightinJAG

I agree to a point.

Never have thought he was a good choice.

I could vote for him under some circumstances.

What good choice do we have?


176 posted on 12/09/2011 5:27:50 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: cripplecreek

Just curious can you cite anything Bachmann has actually done, not just talked about but accomplished?


177 posted on 12/09/2011 5:29:50 PM PST by Leto (Damn shame Palin didn't run, The Presidency was Her's for the taking)
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To: cripplecreek

Just curious can you cite anything Bachmann has actually done, not just talked about but accomplished?


178 posted on 12/09/2011 5:30:02 PM PST by Leto (Damn shame Palin didn't run, The Presidency was Her's for the taking)
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To: Palladin
Gingrich may be many things, but a RINO he is not. Santorum and Bachmann have zero of getting the nomination but it's your choice in the primaries. In the general election if Gingrich get the nomination and you refuse to vote for him good luck with Obama, I guess he is the kind of Christian you would prefer.
179 posted on 12/09/2011 5:31:20 PM PST by WHBates
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To: Jim Robinson

I think everyone should watch this interview w Kudlow outstanding stuff:

http://www.nationalreview.com/kudlows-money-politics/285135/one-one-newt-gingrich


180 posted on 12/09/2011 5:34:02 PM PST by Leto (Damn shame Palin didn't run, The Presidency was Her's for the taking)
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