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Bachmann to Trump: You’re fired
Hotair ^ | 12/09/2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/09/2011 7:32:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

CBN’s David Brody gets the scoop on Michele Bachmann’s response to the invitation to the Donald Trump forum on December 27th in Iowa. Apparently, she has something better to do one week before the caucuses than ring-kissing:

Michele Bachmann’s campaign tells The Brody File that she will NOT attend the Newsmax debate moderated by Donald Trump on December 27th. Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman have also declined. That leaves Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum as the only ones who have said they will attend. A Lincoln/Douglas debate anyone?

In order to have a Lincoln/Douglas style debate, Trump would have to keep his mouth shut. Odds on that? You’re better off betting that Buddy Roemer wins Iowa in four weeks.

Brody thinks that Bachmann might be working on an upset:

The Brody File has said that Bachmann’s organizational strength among pastors and homeschoolers gives her the real shot at doing very well in Iowa.

And let’s face it — if that’s the demographic she’s aiming to get into her corner, Bachmann won’t convince them by cavorting with Donald Trump, of all people. With Romney not terribly popular among social conservatives and Gingrich carrying a hefty amount of personal baggage in this area, Bachmann could well make some inroads in her native state by hewing to social-conservative positions and venues. Rick Perry has already reached the same conclusion, making overt arguments along faith-based themes in Iowa. Again, Trump isn’t exactly a model for that argument.

So the question now becomes this: will Gingrich and Santorum stick to their commitment to Trump, or will they suddenly find something else to do on the 27th? I’m betting that they find some way to distance themselves from this event, and that it gets quietly forgotten.


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To: ScottinVA

“What again that accomplish, besides an opportunity for Trump to glorify himself?”

It accomplished the proffer of a digitally forged document as Obama’s best defense. It is not Trump’s fault that officeholders and officials from both parties willfully ignore that the present charade is a charade.


41 posted on 12/09/2011 8:20:41 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: altura

Wondering since Santorum is in ...if Newt and Santorum will form a friendship. So far, I haven’t heard Santorum slamming the other candidates much. A Trump endorsement would help in New York.


42 posted on 12/09/2011 8:21:20 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: ScottinVA
Trump is a ‘rat. Maybe not the typical commie kind frequently seen these daze, but a ‘rat none the less.
Amen to that. How people fail to see it is amazing to me.

And all the other debates were put on by.......uh.....organizations like CNN, CNBC,......
Did you have a problem with any of those?

This debate is sponsored by News Max, and THIS is the one you object to? Who's side are you on, anyway?

43 posted on 12/09/2011 8:24:44 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: ScottinVA
If Ronald Reagan were alive today, would candidates who sought out his advice, counsel and wisdom be considered to be either feeding his or their own, 'ego trips'? The fact is, Donald Trump did more to smoke out the Kenyan Klown's FAKE birth certificate than anyone else did (and that will sooner or later, bite B'rack on his Communist ass, just you wait and see).
Quite a show, wasn't it, that "smoking out" of the BC? What again that accomplish, besides an opportunity for Trump to glorify himself?


Scott, you obviously haven't been keeping up. That so-called 'certificate' that the 0bama regime released with much fanfare has been proven to be a sham, by more than one document expert, and while the wheels of revelation turn slowly, they do indeed turn. And there remains that little issue of 0bama using a Connecticut-issued Social Security Number when he was living and working in HAWAII. You don't like Donald Trump, everyone gets that. But when he does something that benefits our Nation, he should get credit for it. Focusing attention on 0bama's dubious origins was a definite service, and his participation in the political process should be encouraged, not ridiculed.

As a highly successful, two-term conservative President Reagan has earned the honor of being a sought-after endorsement.

Err, except for the fact that he died in 2004. I was speaking hypothetically Scott.

Contrast that to Trump, a political chameleon whose donations to democrats far exceed those to Republicans, and STILL is mulling a third-party run against those whose "debate" he wants to "moderate." As for the comparison with Reagan, Trump doesn't belong in the same stadium, much less on the same field as the Gipper.

Nobody suggested that Trump and Reagan were 'equivalent' or 'equal', and even Trump would never make such a comparison. It is the idea of a public figure, with considerable influence, who in this case, is no friend of Barack 0bama, is involved in the process of hopefully flushing that Kenyan turd out of the White House next year. If that is our goal, then Trump has made common cause with us. That's not a bad thing.
44 posted on 12/09/2011 8:24:54 AM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

I agree, anyone who is unwilling to be in a debate moderated by Trump has officially labeled themselves part of the establishment that is against anyone but them running things.

I will stand behind NewsMax before i stand behind CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, or any other MSM outlet holding a debate that is moderated by leftists cronies who’s only aim is to make republicans look stupid.


45 posted on 12/09/2011 8:28:56 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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Sooooo... The justification for Trump is...

The moderators from CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS/PBS turn our debates into a media circus, and our response is to up the ante by hiring a genuine Ringmaster?

It solidifies the impression that we're more interested in the entertainment value of the debates rather than the substance.

Why not have The Mythbusters sponsor a debate...at least there would be actual explosions.

Huckabee provided an excellent blueprint for vetting candidates on relevant issues. Let's see who follows.

46 posted on 12/09/2011 8:32:01 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: concerned about politics

“She’s running from the media. We don’t need any... who hide under their desks when a liberal reporter walks into the room.”

Interesting you should say that. Lately I’ve noticed the only time(s) I can even tolerate listening to Bachmann is when she’s being interviewed in a very friendly environment, i.e., Hannity or Levin. She comes across as articulate, calm, civil.

Add opponents to the mix and she becomes hysterical in the traditional use of the word. She seems to feel threatened at a very basic level and just lashes out irrationally. And that’s with the guys on her side of the aisle. Not presidential at all.

The POTUS can’t choose who s/he interacts with, and can’t change personality and behavior based on who the individual might be. MB may be good on paper, or in a supportive environment, but in the least challenging circumstances (a debate with fellow Republicans) she fails abysmally.


47 posted on 12/09/2011 8:39:51 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

IMHO...
The sad part about her being Renfield is that even if she drops out and endorses Mittens, I don’t think her followers are going to go for that. Her’s are definitely more Tea party followers and will go to Perry or Newt or Santorum.


48 posted on 12/09/2011 8:40:36 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: SeekAndFind

49 posted on 12/09/2011 8:42:42 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...
RE :”Brody thinks that Bachmann might be working on an upset: The Brody File has said that Bachmann’s organizational strength among pastors and homeschoolers gives her the real shot at doing very well in Iowa. And let’s face it — if that’s the demographic she’s aiming to get into her corner, Bachmann won’t convince them by cavorting with Donald Trump, of all people. With Romney not terribly popular among social conservatives and Gingrich carrying a hefty amount of personal baggage in this area, Bachmann could well make some inroads in her native state by hewing to social-conservative positions and venues.

Bachmann not getting herself involved with this Jerry Springer like character (Trump) is a HUGE plus in my view.

Remember Trump's phony POTUS run and all the suckers that bought into it (and him) like rats following the leader off the cliff? What did your private investigators find that you claimed was conclusive Don??

50 posted on 12/09/2011 8:42:50 AM PST by sickoflibs (Cain :"Plan B is to quit, but not call it quitting. Instead call it fighting")
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To: altura

This is sponsored by NewsMax. Trump is only the moderator.


51 posted on 12/09/2011 8:43:23 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: concerned about politics

“Who’s side are you on, anyway?”

Oh, please...

Go back.. look at my posts... then get back.


52 posted on 12/09/2011 8:44:09 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: concerned about politics
This debate is sponsored by News Max, and THIS is the one you object to?

It's not even so much the debate as it is to the damned fealty to Trump! What part of that isn't being understood here???

53 posted on 12/09/2011 8:45:24 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
The moderators from CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS/PBS turn our debates into a media circus, and our response is to up the ante by hiring a genuine Ringmaster?

Thank you.

Trump is sizing them up because he's considering running on a third-party ticket. It stinks out loud, folks!

54 posted on 12/09/2011 8:47:10 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: mkjessup
Err, except for the fact that he died in 2004. I was speaking hypothetically Scott.

Yes, I fully understand that. But WERE he alive, the comparison to Trump couldn't be more false.

55 posted on 12/09/2011 8:49:04 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: OneVike
The Oboma administration has been working on demonizing the wealthy (Alinksi - "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy) for quite some time now (since the supreme court decided non-union businesses can contribute to Republicans the same way unions contribute to democrats).

He's trying to scare politicians on our side from taking big money (like the democrats get from unions) from non union businesses for fear of being exposed as "evil rich guy" sympathetic, or "one of them."

Trump is one of those "demons". That's why the other candidates are running away from him. Oboma has easily manipulated the other candidates. If he can get to them this easily, they're toast if they go up against him in a presidential election.

Only two are standing up to Obomas Alinski tactic.

56 posted on 12/09/2011 8:49:48 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SeekAndFind

Bachmann is my ideological favorite, even more pure than Sarah Palin by maybe 10-15%

And she is very nice to look at it.

But she just doesn’t have “it”.

Newt does.

Sarah does.

Obama does..for his side.

Magnus did. Cheney did but never got to fully use it given a bad luck health card.

FDR had it. Clinton had it..perversely. Lincoln had it..whoops my dead CSA kin just rolled over..lol...

George Washington had it as did Jefferson and Franklin.

Jim DeMint has it. Haley Barbour has it. I think Ryan does.

Hitler grotesquely had it as did stellar Winston Churchill.

It’s an intangible. It’s like the old EF Hutton commerical. When you speak, all heads turn and get quiet and listen because you project to folks that they should pay attention to you.

My own father had it..as a leader.

It’s just a thing. It’s like watching Lee Marvin in a war movie. It looks real because it is real....

When Michelle stood on that stage she never stood out and seemed diminished...not because she is not worthy but she lacked that intangible.

Newt with all his flaws will never appear ineffective, lost for words, without purpose or scared. That does help.


57 posted on 12/09/2011 9:00:52 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: mkjessup

If Ronald Reagan were alive today, would candidates who sought out his advice, counsel and wisdom be considered to be either feeding his or their own, ‘ego trips’?

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No, they would be talking with the incredibly successful elder statesman of the Republican party. Something Trump ain’t ever gonna be.


58 posted on 12/09/2011 9:03:42 AM PST by dmz
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To: GrandmaPatriot

If she drops out and endorses Mitt she’ll be exposed as a fraud who used the tea Party and conservatives to further her own selfish agenda. That would make it very hard for her to keep her seat in Cingress as she may draw a legitimate Tea Party conservative in the primary.


59 posted on 12/09/2011 9:18:34 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Mittt Romney - he lacks the courage of his absence of convictions .)
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To: EDINVA

You are right. I had not noticed that but you are on to something about her two public faces. I hate what she has done to herself in this campaign. She has gone from being an inspiring legislator to an annoying distraction. It started with Rollins, and has only gotten worse.


60 posted on 12/09/2011 9:18:51 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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