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1 posted on 12/07/2011 9:55:40 AM PST by ventanax5
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POS “AirBus” Broke.


2 posted on 12/07/2011 10:03:00 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: ventanax5

what a horrifying transcript
Must be very hard on the families .. very very hard


3 posted on 12/07/2011 10:08:27 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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Ping.


4 posted on 12/07/2011 10:09:59 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: ventanax5

Seems like a terrible idea to have the pilot sticks disconnected from each other, one pilot can be pulling full up and the other not know it.


5 posted on 12/07/2011 10:11:58 AM PST by al44
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To: ventanax5

Negligent homicide by the pilots.

It’s chilling to think the people into whose hands passengers place their lives could screw up so needlessly and badly.


6 posted on 12/07/2011 10:12:48 AM PST by DarrellZero
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Interesting coincidence, I was just thinking about that crash and the reason for it after my Chevy truck had a wiring harness go bad in the front axle.

55 mph and accelerating on a busy road when my speedometer just dropped to zero. The d*mn thing went into 1st gear, my anti-lock brakes started screwing up and I almost caused an accident. Having all those systems tied into each other like that made it far worse than it should have been and I had no way to correct any of it.

Made me think of the reason for that crash as I limped home in 1st gear.


7 posted on 12/07/2011 10:16:17 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: ventanax5

That pilot picked one hell of a time to take a nap. Sad.


8 posted on 12/07/2011 10:16:17 AM PST by colorado tanker
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Read an in-depth report on the crash a few weeks back in one of my flying mags.

the net of it all is that despite ALL conventional wisdom, the PIC maintained a deliberate and excessive nose-up attitude on the aircraft and kept it in a stall, in the so-called ‘coffin corner’ of the flight envelope.

NET: The Pilot in Charge, in error, flew the aircraft into terrain (the ocean).


9 posted on 12/07/2011 10:20:25 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: ventanax5

Pretty pathetic that the Captain has to take a nap less than 2 hours after take off all the while knowing his flight path intersects serious storm cells.


10 posted on 12/07/2011 10:20:39 AM PST by Kahuna
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To: ventanax5

Sounds like an elevator trim tab problem.


11 posted on 12/07/2011 10:25:23 AM PST by ILS21R (Never give up)
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I think the first post on this thread says it all.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2798577/posts


12 posted on 12/07/2011 10:26:19 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE (Millions of government bureaucrats are gang raping and choking the life out of America.)
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To: ventanax5
Thanks for posting.

Chilling.

18 posted on 12/07/2011 10:48:07 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: ventanax5

Stories like these don’t help this lifelong fraidy cat flyer. I have no experience flying a plane and even I know that if a plane stalls, you NEVER pull up. It seems to me we had an inexperienced guy who freaked out, a flawed design in the aircraft, and a total meltdown of discipline and experience in the end.


22 posted on 12/07/2011 11:14:20 AM PST by lazypadawan
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My son and I were discussing this crash last weekend.

He’s more knowledgeable on this stuff than me.

If electronics, gauges, displays fail, 75% power, 5 deg. nose up. hold the wings level.
At high altitudes the safe envelope is very narrow. High angle of attack...stall. Even at relatively high speed.
Too low angle of attack..over-speed.


24 posted on 12/07/2011 11:20:20 AM PST by Vinnie
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How could a technologically state-of-the art airliner simply vanish?

It didn't "simply vanish." It fell into the sea. There, "mystery" solved.

26 posted on 12/07/2011 11:29:37 AM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: ventanax5

I watched an episode of “Mayday” on this. It was particularly unsettling because of all the mistakes the pilots made.


31 posted on 12/07/2011 11:44:51 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: ventanax5

The transcript is chilling. Having the greenest pilot in control of the aircraft was not a wise decision.

On the bright side, at least the passengers never knew what hit them. Aside from what was likely unnerving turbulence, they probably had little idea that their flight was in peril.


40 posted on 12/07/2011 1:08:38 PM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: ventanax5

Sounds like a classic case of vertigo.

Poorly trained pilots stop trusting their instruments in stressful situations. Because they are unable to visually orient themselves, they get the sensation that they are falling, and instinctively pull back on the stick.

This is essentially what happened to JKF, Jr. back in ‘99.

Had this been a Boeing, the more experienced pilot would have sensed that the younger pilot was doing so.


41 posted on 12/07/2011 1:14:05 PM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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Gee, darn handy those black boxes were found. Pilot error. Go figger.


54 posted on 12/08/2011 6:11:20 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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