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Tea Party vs. the GOP establishment – Begging for a brokered convention…
Redstate ^ | December 5, 2011 | imperfectamerica

Posted on 12/06/2011 7:52:17 AM PST by upchuck

For much of the last three years, I, like so many others who were so despondent after the election of 2008, assumed that the election of 2012 was finally going to provide the American people with a real choice of philosophies.

On the one side you have President Obama and the progressive / fascist utopia. (Fascist in the economic sense – where private property remains, but government dictates its usage – rather than the Nazi anti-Semitic / nationalist sense.) This utopia is where government plays the role of caretaker of the nation, where government tells citizens what they can and can’t do with their property, what they must buy and where they must invest, where unions have the power to coerce both government officials and private corporations that pay their members salaries.

On the other side the Tea Party was going to make sure that for the first time in 30 years a conservative nominee would be the standard-bearer of the Republican Party. The platform would include radically smaller government, less intrusive government, and lower taxes coupled with a less complicated tax code – maybe even the Fair Tax – and a strict adherence to the 10th Amendment. Life was indeed going to be good again and prosperity would soon come roaring back.

Given the failure of everything progressive, from welfare to education to the USSR to practically the entire European continent, Americans would finally be given the choice between continuing down that well trod path to failure and a going down that forgotten path of economic liberty that was the foundation of American prosperity since the revolution.

Somehow, somewhere along the road leading to that fateful, Solomanic fork in the road, something went wrong. Not on the left. No, President Obama has indeed been as progressive as most of us feared, and in some cases far worse. Actually, the problem is on the right. Where many of us were hoping that the standard-bearer of the GOP would be a clean, if not perfect, conservative, increasingly it looks as if the nominee is going to be someone other than that.

In the one corner we have Mitt Romney who to this day refuses to renounce Romneycare, the Massachusetts disaster that spawned Obamacare. He also was an early supporter of cap and trade, was gullible on global warming, opposes a flat tax or the Fair Tax and shares an unhealthy affinity with Barack Obama for class warfare.

In the other corner we have Newt Gingrich, the guy who sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi and told us to pressure our leaders to combat climate change. Although he finally admitted that was one of the stupidest things he ever did, there are other candidates for that title. He trashed Paul Ryan’s less than radical tax plan as “conservative social engineering”, supported the individual mandate in healthcare and now wants to harness local boards to determine which illegal immigrants should be allowed to pursue a “Path to legality”. I have to wonder how effective that might be in sanctuary cities around the country like San Francisco, Austin and Denver. As if all of that were not enough, after taking almost $2 million from Fannie & Freddie and praising their work and the GSE model itself, he now wants us to believe that the only thing he did for the money was tell them their businesses were going to fail. Really?

There are of course others in the race and they too are imperfect, but at least with Perry and Bachman you know they are true conservatives mostly dedicated to a smaller government. Unfortunately for the two of them, their campaigns barely register a pulse when it comes to the polls.

At the end of the day one has to ask, what happened to the Tea Party revolution? How is it possible that the two men leading the race for the 2012 GOP nomination are big government, crony capitalist chameleons who are far less inclined to upend the Washington applecart than work with the people driving it? Why are not the leading GOP candidates shouting from the rafters that they will radically slash government spending and regulation, that they will champion a flat tax and that they will impose a strict adherence to the Constitution, particularly the 10th Amendment?

Despite the best efforts of the media and the Democrats to paint the Tea Partiers as racist rubes and the Occupy Wall Streeters as noble sophisticates put upon by the evil capitalist system, the American people recognize the truth. The fact that the PR field is so heavily tilted towards OWS, yet citizens still have a more favorable view of the Tea Party, tells you everything the GOP needs to know about the coming election. If they would simply run a candidate who proudly articulates basic conservative principles, the next election would result in the country being freed from the tightening progressive noose around its neck. Without such a candidate, with just another standard-bearer Americans can’t distinguish from the big government GOP they’ve come to know, Barack Obama may indeed triumph.

With Gingrich and Romney sitting in the pole positions, I find myself pulling for a brokered convention that results in an opening for someone other than Frick and Frack to take the nomination. Someone like Sarah Palin, or even the forgetful but conservative Rick Perry. Sure that’s an unlikely scenario, but at this point the traditional route has brought us two paper tiger conservatives leading the pack. The Tea Partiers and the country deserve an opportunity to make a clear choice between progressivism and conservatism. Let’s hope that somehow the GOP can figure out how to give that to them. Otherwise it may be another four years of hoping for change.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brokeredconvention; election2012; fascism; gopprimary; nationalsocialist; nazi; teaparty
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Good commentary.
1 posted on 12/06/2011 7:52:19 AM PST by upchuck
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To: upchuck

A brokered convention is the only chance we have of wresting control of our candidate choice from the RINO/Democrat/state-controlled media complex/


2 posted on 12/06/2011 8:02:19 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemyÂ’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: upchuck
Anyone know the comparative numbers of

(the Tea Party) vs. (the GOP (minus the Tea Party))?

i.e. Can the Tea Party overpower the GOP establishment? A dream come true since the GOP establishment is really why we have a Marxist and probable impostor POTUS.

3 posted on 12/06/2011 8:03:30 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: upchuck
At the end of the day one has to ask, what happened to the Tea Party revolution?

Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin

Followed by THIS...

Sarah Palin tells Mark Levin she won't run for president in 2012

October 5, 2011
Wasilla, Alaska

After much prayer and serious consideration, I have decided that I will not be seeking the 2012 GOP nomination for President of the United States. As always, my family comes first and obviously Todd and I put great consideration into family life before making this decision. When we serve, we devote ourselves to God, family and country. My decision maintains this order.

My decision is based upon a review of what common sense Conservatives and Independents have accomplished, especially over the last year. I believe that at this time I can be more effective in a decisive role to help elect other true public servants to office – from the nation’s governors to Congressional seats and the Presidency. We need to continue to actively and aggressively help those who will stop the “fundamental transformation” of our nation and instead seek the restoration of our greatness, our goodness and our constitutional republic based on the rule of law.

From the bottom of my heart I thank those who have supported me and defended my record throughout the years, and encouraged me to run for President. Know that by working together we can bring this country back – and as I’ve always said, one doesn’t need a title to help do it.

I will continue driving the discussion for freedom and free markets, including in the race for President where our candidates must embrace immediate action toward energy independence through domestic resource developments of conventional energy sources, along with renewables. We must reduce tax burdens and onerous regulations that kill American industry, and our candidates must always push to minimize government to strengthen the economy and allow the private sector to create jobs.

Those will be our priorities so Americans can be confident that a smaller, smarter government that is truly of the people, by the people, and for the people can better serve this most exceptional nation.

In the coming weeks I will help coordinate strategies to assist in replacing the President, re-taking the Senate, and maintaining the House.

Thank you again for all your support. Let’s unite to restore this country!

God bless America.

– Sarah Palin

4 posted on 12/06/2011 8:03:52 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: upchuck

I’m for a brokered convention as well, but I can not envision a scenario is which 90 % of the delegates are ssigned to people who have to accede to transferring them to somebody who hasnt even bothered running... This is not 1894..


5 posted on 12/06/2011 8:06:07 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: upchuck
Flashback:

Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: ‘As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them’

6 posted on 12/06/2011 8:07:09 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I disagree. Delagates are usually party insiders chosen from the local ranks. A brokered convention would benefit Romney once the pledged delagates are released.


7 posted on 12/06/2011 8:08:17 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Nonstatist

“This is not 1894..” this election is not like anything we’ve ever seen before.....


8 posted on 12/06/2011 8:11:04 AM PST by stickywillie
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To: wolfman23601
Delagates are usually party insiders chosen from the local ranks. A brokered convention would benefit Romney once the pledged delagates are released.

I agree. This idea about a brokered convention with enthusiastic, independent TEA Party delegates is sheer fantasy. The party bosses are in control, and the TEA Party's best shot at purging the GOP-E of its RINOs is the primaries. But quite frankly it looks like we have lost that battle, with Newt and Romney as the two evils to choose between at this point.

9 posted on 12/06/2011 8:12:19 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: upchuck
Now I want someone to please show me how any one of the GOP candidates can beat Obama. I am not seeing it.
Obama gets 90% of the Black vote, 70-75% of the Hispanic vote, 65% of the Jewish vote, 60% of the youth vote(all races), 65%+ of the urban vote, 80% of the Academic vote, 90% of the media vote and coverage. I simply do not see any of the GOP featherweights beating him. One bright spot though. Free Republic's spell check still does not recognize Obama as a legitimate name.
10 posted on 12/06/2011 8:14:29 AM PST by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: wolfman23601
I disagree. Delagates are usually party insiders chosen from the local ranks. A brokered convention would benefit Romney once the pledged delagates are released.

If that happens, then the local delegate elections which usually only one person runs for and no one pays attention to could get very interesting next time around.

11 posted on 12/06/2011 8:17:59 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: upchuck
Fascist in the economic sense – where private property remains, but government dictates its usage – rather than the Nazi anti-Semitic... sense.

I don't know...between Obama and the Occupunks they pretty much "hate the jooz".

And if you want some real-live Nazis, just walk into any office of a DHHS "child protective services". (ala Janet Reno)

12 posted on 12/06/2011 8:18:34 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; upchuck

Nonsense.

So we have a brokered convention and pick either Perry or Palin? Why?

Palin chose not to run. Republican primary voters appear to be choosing others before Perry.

What is this fantasy that a brokered convention will somehow magically make new and better candidates appear, or make existing candidates more appealing and popular?

We have had a long primary run-up with a large slate of candidates. We have gotten a good look at them all. Now we will choose one from the existing menu.

I think some folks have let the left talk them into hating all of our candidates.


13 posted on 12/06/2011 8:21:07 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: upchuck

What really gets me is that there was this huge abundance of energy and electricity due to the Tea Parties in 2010, ready, willing and anxious to be ginned up for the fight to get rid of Obama following the mid-terms. But instead, the dunderheads of the GOP establishment, the GOP House leadership, the Karl Roves, the RNC, the FoxNews talking-heads, all managed to collectively pour cold water onto everything. The Tea Party gets summarily kicked to the curb by “our betters,” whose primary goal this past year has been promoting Romney to the nomination, at all costs.

Yeah, good goin.’ Great way to dissipate that whole huge reservoir of enthusiasm that was out there.


14 posted on 12/06/2011 8:23:58 AM PST by greene66
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To: rogue yam
I think some folks have let the left talk them into hating all of our candidates.

Actually, just the opposite.

I was for Palin because the RINO/Democrat/State-controlled media attacked her.

Ditto for Cain.

I hate candidates that state-controlled media loves.

And my opinion of Noot has not changed for fifteen years.

You're the one who obeys the Left.

15 posted on 12/06/2011 8:25:29 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemyÂ’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: Timber Rattler
But quite frankly it looks like we have lost that battle, with Newt and Romney as the two evils to choose between at this point.

How about we stop calling Newt "evil", nominate tea party conservatives in every race possible up and down the ballot, get a GOP majority in both houses of Congress and a Republican President, and then get down to the tough business of formulating and promoting tea party conservative solutions to the many problems facing our nation, and demand that our federal, state, and local governments implement them, just like we've been doing for the last two years.

16 posted on 12/06/2011 8:28:12 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: PapaNew

The ONLY way the TEA Party will affect the convention is if they get elected as ELECTORS....go do a search of who the electors were in the 2008 election for GOP in your state....figure out whether they represent your views....and if not, you better start getting Precinct Committee People elected, pronto!


17 posted on 12/06/2011 8:28:43 AM PST by goodnesswins (Bad planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine....)
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To: upchuck

It may be that our best bet is to work for command and control of both the house and the senate. That would give another 4 years to find someone...to do the job that MUST be done.


18 posted on 12/06/2011 8:28:59 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: upchuck

Perry/Bachmann? oh hell yes!


19 posted on 12/06/2011 8:28:59 AM PST by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: greene66
What really gets me is that there was this huge abundance of energy and electricity due to the Tea Parties in 2010, ready, willing and anxious to be ginned up for the fight to get rid of Obama following the mid-terms. But instead, the dunderheads of the GOP establishment, the GOP House leadership, the Karl Roves, the RNC, the FoxNews talking-heads, all managed to collectively pour cold water onto everything.

So who is one potential tea party conservative candidate who would be a capable and popular front-runner right now but for the nefarious actions of the "GOP establishment"?

Palin?

Is that it?

Sarah chose not to run. She could have but did not. It is time to stop sobbing over this.

20 posted on 12/06/2011 8:32:45 AM PST by rogue yam
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