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The Ron Paul Factor (Why he's surging even as others are stagnant or stumbling)
National Review ^ | 12/06/2011 | Robert Costa

Posted on 12/06/2011 7:14:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: GlockThe Vote

Ok, you can continue to blame America first, and vote for Paul. I will not support him because of his stance on the defense of the USA and his making excuses for terrorist world wide.


41 posted on 12/06/2011 8:29:26 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Are you talking about the link on DRUDGE what a bunch of distortions. Not surprising however.


42 posted on 12/06/2011 8:32:15 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: svcw

Did you even read the report itself? The INS approved a visa application for ATTA that should never have been approved.

The FBI failed to head the warnings of the flight school owner who wanred them of muslim students trying olny to fly and land.

And on and on and on and on.


43 posted on 12/06/2011 8:34:00 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: svcw

Please refute this.

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/may/21/nation/na-terror21

The INS allowed ATTA in this country despite knowing he should not have been here. I am not a 911 CT’er.

I believe mass govt incompetence helped 9/11 occur.


44 posted on 12/06/2011 8:36:07 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Good point.

And Ron Paul served honorably during the Viet Nam era.

Notice that the ‘big defense talkers’ and ‘foreign policy guys’ like Gingrich and Romney were nowhere to be found in the military when their country needed them back then. These guys ‘opted out’ just like Bill Clinton. No difference.

Talk is cheap. Gingrich and Romney are famous chickenhawks who talk a good game, but have no real principle.

Gingrich is enthusiastically supportive of the Toffler communists’ ‘Third Wave’ globalist regime. Is this someone whose ‘foreign policy’ you can trust?

The ‘Third Wave’ is treason by another name.

Ron Paul 2012 - a real conservative, a man of principle, and the military and veteran’s best friend.


45 posted on 12/06/2011 8:36:23 AM PST by Iggles Phan
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To: svcw
Come on.... RP is just building up a nice retirement nestegg from the contributions of his wildeyed zealots. Revised literature will have RP replacing both Don Quixote and Lyndon LaRouche.
46 posted on 12/06/2011 8:36:30 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: Gadsden1st
Sorry, while there are moments I can see some of what Paul says is helpful, his associations and other rhetoric are as dangerous as any from the other side.

There may well be blood in the streets at some point but it will be blood spilled by us, not by the Muslim horde. A nuke in Iran landing on you grand-kid tomorrow will preempt any need for concern about the “FED” etc.

What will it matter if we do not protect ALL Americans from ALL threats. We have to address ALL enemies, foreign AND domestic.

That is my non 12 year old answer, the rest is just fun with the resident Paul nuts, you'll see them on these threads soon enough and you may find yourself changing your mind on RP again...

47 posted on 12/06/2011 8:37:33 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul is one of the Democrat’s best candidates.


48 posted on 12/06/2011 8:37:58 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ejonesie22

Looks like the OMB (occupy mom’s basement) crowd is getting spunky again.

Lay off the sugar and pot kids...

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Love it! Post of the day — probably of the month.


49 posted on 12/06/2011 8:39:32 AM PST by Bigg Red (In this Advent season: Prepare ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: Iggles Phan

Call me crazy - but i am not really enthused about the idea of having to fight in a war in the ME caused by obama’s fomenting religious extremism is Egypt, Africa, etc.

But that is me. If others want to go die for Obama “spreading freedom” to Egypt and Lybia, good luck.


50 posted on 12/06/2011 8:41:04 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: SeekAndFind
And with January fast approaching, his team is ready to surprise the political world and sweep the Iowa caucuses.

So, R-U-N Paul has been put in charge of the clean up crew? That's appropriate!

51 posted on 12/06/2011 8:41:13 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Gadsden1st

Ron Paul is an intelligent man, he is, after all a physician.
I just do not understand why he is running as a Republican.
His views are not conservative. Most of his views are just plain crazy.
He will not support Israel, and will give a pass to Iran.
His foreign policy platform is not realistic. I think we need to stop a lot of our international interventions, but complete isolationism will be a detriment to our national security.


52 posted on 12/06/2011 8:41:52 AM PST by kaila
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To: Iggles Phan
I just can't place your old screen name, but your style is definitely familiar..
53 posted on 12/06/2011 8:42:07 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
Ron Pauls support can be summarized like this....

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Just a bunch of suicide spam monkeys.

54 posted on 12/06/2011 8:47:54 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: kaila

His views are not conservative.?
What is more conservative than returning to a constitutional govt.


55 posted on 12/06/2011 8:48:07 AM PST by standing man (stand tall)
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To: GlockThe Vote

The drug war has gone stupid, but legalization is not the answer...


56 posted on 12/06/2011 8:49:02 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Tribune7
What does it say about the state of our society

...Maybe you should take another look at the last 7 or 8 Presidents we've elected to see what a mess our nation building has done to this nation.

57 posted on 12/06/2011 8:51:01 AM PST by gargoyle (...Amendments 1 and 2, a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: svcw

Neither would I, otherwise I would be an Obama supporter.

However it is naive to think America has never made mistakes in it foreign relations. I believe America is the greatest nation on earth, and I believe we will survive our present crisis. However we will not do it by ignoring mistakes and not learning from them. And I truly believe as things are currently being managed by the media and other power interest, Ron Paul is the only one who understands we are past bandaids.

If I have to seriously prepare to shoot a 14 year old child that comes to my door looking for food because she may be a trap for a roving band of looters, I am willing to consider withdrawing to a fortress America while we get this country back.

I believe we are in a state of civil war now, only time and the choices we make will determine how much American blood is shed on American soil.


58 posted on 12/06/2011 8:52:08 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: standing man

Paul wants a Constitutional government? Then explain to me how voting to force our soldiers to have to bunk and shower with people expressing an open perversion for the same gender is a position consistent with Constitutional government. To me it just seems that Ron Paul is an anti-military pervert who voted to give special rights to fellow perverts.


59 posted on 12/06/2011 8:53:02 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: SeekAndFind

Serious advocates of Constitutional Government need to look at Paul.

IMHO...our military is way over committed. Bring ‘em home...batten down the hatches..button up the border ...take care of our own mess domestically.

Paul is the closest to this of all the candidates.


60 posted on 12/06/2011 8:54:11 AM PST by mo
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