Certifigate : Donald Trump now casts even more doubt on Obama

WND ^ | DECEMBER 5, 2011 | Bob Unruh

[RobinMasters]

The mainstream media are "protecting" Barack Obama's "unconstitutional" tenure in the White House, refusing to investigate allegations that he fails to meet the Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural born citizen," according to flamboyant billionaire Donald Trump.

In a conference call today with reporters, WND asked Trump why, if he believes defeating Obama is so significant in 2012, doesn't he use his influence to mount a formal investigation into Obama's eligibility.

There have been allegations since long before Obama's election in 2008 that he is not a "natural-born citizen," a requirement imposed on no other official.

Obama's critics believe that at the time the Constitution was written, the Founders understood "natural-born citizen" to mean the offspring of two citizens.

Obama has claimed he was born in Hawaii, but birth documentation he's released has been judged by a number of document, imaging and graphics experts to be fake.

Others believe he would fail to qualify no matter his place of birth, because his father, Barack Obama Sr., was a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Obama Jr.'s birth. They allege the Founders precluded dual citizens by specifically demanding a "natural-born citizen."

[thecodont]

The most likely GOP candidate to go off the reservation and attack Obama’s BC is Perry, who has nothing to lose and was brave enough to invite an endorsement by Arpaio in spite of Arpaio’s public declarations that his posse has found something “shocking” about Obama’s eligibility.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Perry the ONLY candidate who offered to get a copy of his own birth certificate to show the public? I think that was a news item a month or so ago but it was pretty much ignored by the media.

[Future Useless Eater]

Maybe the oligarchy is realizing the jig is almost up, and Trump is savvy to what the oligarchy is inclined to do about it.

Plus, it is too much of a coincidence that Obama is heading to Hawaii for vacation at the same time that
court challenges are going on there, trying to validate (or invalidate) the faked POS long form B.C. he released in April.

The sacks-of-sh*t lawyers defending Obama seem to go berserk that the proceedings are even being allowed to proceed.

[SvenMagnussen]

The DONALD needs to hold up Soetoro’s Indonesian school and say,

“Who is Barry Soetoro?

This record states Barry Soetoro was born in Honolulu, HI and identifies him as an Indonesian National and the son of Lolo Soetoro. Did Lolo Soetoro adopt Barack Obama and rename him Barry Soetoro?

When did Barry Soetoro, Indonesian National, become Barack Obama? Is Barack Obama an Indonesian National or U.S. Citizen?”

Forget about the Birth Certificate! Let’s talk about Barry Soetoro, Indonesian National.

[Seizethecarp]

Perry has declined to participate in the Trump debate.

Interesting. That “debate” looks like a bust.

Perhaps Perry was already committed to his last ditch bus tour in Iowa?

Chances are that Perry already knows who Trump is going to endorse.

Meanwhile Arpaio has pushed back his “controversial” posse preliminary report to “early February” to be followed “shortly” by the full report. Why the delay?

The nexus between Trump, Arpaio, Perry and Corsi could still be intact, but the sudden rise of Gingrich could be throwing everything off. I was reminded on MSDNC tonight that Gingrich once enbraced the "Obama is an anti-colonial who doesn't understand America" meme from Dinesh D'Souza.

[thecodont]

I would keep the ear and eyes open for whats on the street on the islands for the next month.

Ping.

[DiogenesLamp]

Will birth certificates issued by the State of Hawaii to Hawaiian state citizens show anything other than their actual place of birth?

From my reading of Hawaiian law, if you are born at sea, your birth certificate will definitely list your place of birth as the first port you land. Given that they will knowingly fake a place of birth in this instance, It is an open question as to whether or not they would do the same in other cases. I've read articles that insist they will do this, and that there is in fact a large quantity of immigration fraud occurring through Hawaii and it's peculiar laws. According to the accusations, there are a lot of people from Pacific rim nations who get American citizenship through a network of corruption in Hawaii.

I suppose it would be similar to illegal immigration through the Border states, with the exception that these illegal immigrants have the complicity of indulgent/corrupt bureaucrats giving them the semblance of legitimacy. (just as they have our "precedent." )

Does it happen? Who but DOH Hawaii would know? They won't let us have any information about other people's birth certificates.