Posted on 12/03/2011 6:47:57 PM PST by Grig
Comparing and contrasting Newt and Mitt is a real eye-opener. The two men have taken very different paths in their personal and professional lives, and have wildly different personalities. Newt is a dreamer, Mitt a doer. Newt is reckless, Mitt is careful. Newt is famously undisciplined, Mitt is the epitome of self-discipline. Romney is a leader, Newt simply is not–according to those who worked most closely with him. Both men are intelligent, yet have chosen different ways to use their intelligence.
In education, Romney pursued business and law, while Newt chose modern European History. Romney earned his education quickly and entered the private sector, while Newt preferred academia.
Romney went on to a successful career in business, becoming wealthy helping businesses and creating jobs, while Newt made a career in government, becoming wealthy by exploiting his position of power and selling influence. Romney's skills were in high demand in the private sector, while Newt was removed from leadership in the House due to the chaos he created.
In matters of faith, Romney is a life-long member of his church and has a record of many years of service to it. Newt went from Lutheran to Baptist, to Catholic, with some speculation of political motive in making the conversions. I am not aware of service Newt may have given to his church. In their personal lives, they could not be more different. Mitt married his high school sweetheart after 4 years of courtship, and remains happily married. Newt also married his high school sweetheart - his geometry teacher whom he began dating at age 16. He has admitted that there is some truth in the notion that he hates women. He has a turbulent marital history due to selfishness and uncontrolled sexual appetites. While Romney helped Ann through both MS and cancer, Newt divorced Jackie, who had cancer–saying she was ‘not pretty enough or young enough to be a president’s wife–and besides she has cancer’. Newt divorced Marrianne, who was also diagnosed with MS. At the time, he asked Marrianne if she would please tolerate the six year affair with Callista, and remain married to him. She refused. He married Callista in 2000.
In matters of character, the contrast is keen. Romney has no hint of scandal–personal or professional. Newt has rumors of sexual scandals–including the infamous oral sex in a car with his neighbor's wife, while his little daughter was near. Newt also has a history of ethics violations, shady book deals, sham fundraising practices, and inconsistencies about whether he was hired as an ‘historian’ or as a lobbyist.
In the presidential campaign, they have also chosen very different paths. Romney is serious, organized, hardworking and prepared, while Newt has been flying by the seat of his pants. He now finds himself in the running, but unprepared, due to a severe lack of preparation and organization. While Romney has been mostly humble about his long term frontrunner status, Newt proclaimed himself the nominee after less than two weeks at the top of the polls.
There are many other differences--too many to list here. But we easily know enough to determine who is more worthy of support. We should not divorce the way a man lives in his personal life, from his actions in public life. Character is revealed in both professional and personal decisions. Romney has a solid record of being true to his word, family, and stewardships. Newt does not. While both men have significant accomplishments, only one has the background, character, leadership and temperament we need. That person is Mitt Romney.
This very thread has been posted by a mormon non-US citizen in spite of Jim Robinson's often declared ban on Romney support on FR.
Whine, whine, whine....you conveniently ignore the 52,000 mormon missionaries who go out into the world daily and denigrate Christianity with lies about "restoration" and lies about the requirement of mormon membership in order to be "saved".
In the meantime, there are ongoing multi-billion dollar public relations campaigns on radio, TV and the internet pimping the mormon religion and every member is reminded to be a missionary.
AND you FR mormons whine, whine, whine about a handful of Christians pushing back at worldwide mormon prosletyzing by posting factual articles on FR.
Mitt Romney is the epitome of mormonism, and while mormons boast of his fealty to their sect others can see a lying, back-stabbing, holier-than-thou "priesthood holder" mormon exemplified.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!
I have an idea TPPole, name one inaccuracy, just one that has ever been posted on FR, morons LOVE to make the claim YET never provide and example. It would be wonderful if just once a moromn would back up their bogus claims.
psst Romney is a liberal, I will not support him for that reason.
mromons are not Christians.
As far as the religious bigot part, I am sorry you hate yourself, it just can’t be good for your digestion.
These are the rule for mormon missionaries.
Notice several references to not driving.
The Rules
1. Learn and obey all missionary rules.
2. Keep your thoughts, words, and actions in harmony with the gospel message.
3. Read only books, magazines, and other material authorized by the Church.
4. Don’t debate or argue.
5. Center your mind on your mission.
6. Dress conservatively. Elders: white shirts, conservative ties, and business suits. Sisters: conservative colors and skirts that cover your knees. No floor-length skirts or dresses.
7. Cut your hair regularly.
8. Keep your hair clean and neatly combed at all times in the approved style.
9. Be neat and clean.
10. Bathe frequently.
11. Use deodorant.
12. Polish your shoes.
13. Iron your shirt and business suit.
14. Arise at 6:30 A.M.
15. Study for 2 hours every morning.
16. Proselytize for 10 hours between 9:30 A.M. and 9:30 P.M.
17. Turn off your lights at 10:30 P.M.
18. Exercise regularly.
19. Write in your journal regularly.
20. Follow the “Missionary Gospel Study Program” (31157) for your personal study.
21. Regularly study the Missionary Guide and the Discussions.
22. Attend Sunday priesthood or Relief Society meetings, Sunday School, and sacrament meeting.
23. Attend the general session of Stake Conference.
24. Attend general conference broadcasts if available.
25. Avoid all other church meetings unless you have a special assignment or are brining an investigator.
26. Proselytize as much as possible on weekends and holidays because this is when you’ll find people home.
27. End your preparation day at 6:00 P.M. and proselytize from 6:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M.
28. Wear your missionary uniform in public on preparation day while not engaged in recreational activities.
29. Arise at 6:30 on preparation day and study for 2 hours from the approved books.
30. Take care of your physical preparation for the week on preparation day: wash your clothes, clean your apartment, wash your car, get your haircut, and shop for groceries.
31. Write to your parents every week on preparation day.
32. Write less frequently to your siblings, friends, and acquaintances.
33. Don’t communicate with any friends or acquaintances that are within or close to your mission boundaries, except as a part of official mission business.
34. Plan safe, wholesome, and uplifting activities for preparation day.
35. Stay with your companion during all activities.
36. Do not go on road trips.
37. Do not leave your assigned area without permission (”District leaders must approve travel outside your area within the district; zone leaders must approve travel outside your district within the zone; and the mission president must approve travel outside the zone.”)
38. Do not watch television.
39. Do not view unauthorized videocassettes.
40. Do not listen to the radio.
41. Do not listen to unauthorized audiocassettes or CD’s.
42. Do not participate in musical groups.
43. Do not participate in athletic teams.
44. Do not sponsor athletic teams.
45. Do not engage in contact sports.
46. Do not engage in water sports.
47. Do not engage in winter sports.
48. Do not engage in motorcycling.
49. Do not engage in horseback riding.
50. Do not engage in mountain climbing.
51. Do not embark on a private boat.
52. Do not embark in a private airplane.
53. Do not handle firearms.
54. Do not handle explosives.
55. Do not swim.
56. Do not play full court basketball.
57. Do not play basketball in leagues.
58. Do not play basketball in tournaments.
59. You may play half-court basketball.
60. Never be alone.
61. Seek advice from your mission president if your companion is “having difficulties”.
62. Be loyal to your companion.
63. Ask your mission president for help if your companion doesn’t obey the rules.
64. Pray with your companion every day.
65. Study with your companion every day.
66. Plan your work with your companion every day.
67. Take time at least once a week for companionship inventory.
68. Seek to be one in spirit and purpose and help each other succeed.
69. Always address your companion as Elder or Sister.
70. Sleep in the same bedroom as your companion.
71. Do not sleep in the same bed as your companion.
72. Do not arise before your companion.
73. Do not retire after your companion. (apparently, being together is more important than getting the correct amount of sleep that your unique body requires.)
74. Frequently study with your companion the Missionary Guide section on companions.
75. Never be alone with anyone of the opposite sex.
76. Never associate inappropriately with anyone of the opposite sex (conversely, they don’t mention whether or not it is against the rules to associate inappropriately with anyone of the same sex).
77. Do not flirt.
78. Do not date.
79. Do not communicate via phone or letter with anyone of the opposite sex living within or near mission boundaries.
80. Do not visit a single or divorced person of the opposite sex unless accompanied by a couple or another adult member of your sex.
81. Try to teach single investigators in a member’s home or have missionaries of the same sex teach them.
82. Always follow the above rules, even if the situation seems harmless.
83. Use the commitment pattern to get referrals from members.
84. Keep your dinner visits with member briefs and during the customary dinner hour in the area.
85. Remember to say thank you to those who feed you.
86. Visit members and nonmembers only at appropriate times.
87. Do not counsel or give medical treatment.
88. Do not stay in the homes of people when they are on vacation.
89. Only write letters to family members and friends at home.
90. Do not telephone parents (in some areas, the mission president will make an exception to this rule and will allow 2 phone calls per year: one on Christmas and one on Mother’s day. But the actual rule in the handbook does not give any exceptions. In my mission, the mission president affirmed that the rule in the handbook is unambiguous: Don’t telephone your parents, no exceptions).
91. Do not telephone relatives.
92. Do not telephone friends.
93. Do not telephone girlfriends.
94. Contact your mission president in case of an emergency.
95. Take problems and questions to your mission president.
96. Do not write to the President of the Church or to other General Authorities. Letters from missionaries to General Authorities are referred back to the mission president (There are no checks, balances, or appeals when it comes to the authority of the mission president).
97. Respect the customs, traditions, and property of the people who you are trying to convert (I have to wonder, isn’t it intrinsically disrespectful to their customs and traditions when your purpose for engaging them is to convert them from their customs and traditions and to yours?)
98. Obey all mission rules.
99. Obey the laws of the land.
100. Do not get involved in politics.
101. Do not get involved in commercial activities.
102. Do not give any information about the area.
103. Respect the customs and cultures of those who you are trying to convert to your own customs and culture.
104. Respect the beliefs, practices, and sites of other religions.
105. Do not say or write anything bad about the political and cultural circumstances where you serve.
106. Do not become involved in adoption proceedings.
107. Do not suggest or encourage emigration. (This rule is a bit ironic, given the now-defunct doctrine of gathering the believers to Zion)
108. Be courteous.
109. Provide community service.
110. Do not provide community service that isn’t approved by your mission president.
111. Do not provide more than 4 hours a week of community service.
112. Do not provide community service during the evening, weekend or holidays—those are peek proselytizing times.
113. Your mission president must approve your housing.
114. Keep your housing unit clean.
115. Do not live with single or divorced people of the opposite sex.
116. Do not live where the spouse is frequently absent.
117. Your living unit must have a private bath and entrance.
118. You may occasionally fast for a special reason, but generally the monthly fast is sufficient.
119. Do not fast longer than 24 hours at a time.
120. Do not ask friends, relatives, and members to join in special fasts for investigators. (I wonder if this is because prayer and fasting doesn’t cause strangers to convert and consequently proves to be a faith-demoting experience).
121. Maintain your health.
122. Eat a healthy diet.
123. Sleep from 10:30 to 6:30.
124. Follow the approved exercise program.
125. Keep your body, clothes, dishes, linens, towels and housing unit clean.
126. Dispose of your garbage properly and promptly.
127. Follow the safety rules for all of your stuff.
128. Seek medical care if you are in an accident or become sick.
129. Be immunized.
130. Spend your money only on things relating to your mission.
131. Budget your money carefully.
132. Keep a record of what you spend.
133. Do not spend more than your companion.
134. Do not loan money.
135. Do not borrow money.
136. Keep a reserve fund of $50 to $100 at all times for transfers.
137. Pay your bills before leaving an area.
138. Pay cash for all resale literature and supplies ordered from the mission office.
139. Do not waste money on souvenirs.
140. Do not waste money on unnecessary items.
141. Be a frugal photographer.
142. Do not accumulate excess baggage.
143. Obey custom laws and regulations.
144. Pay fast offerings each fast Sunday to the bishop or branch president where you serve.
145. Pay tithing on outside sources of income (i.e. interest) to your home bishop or branch president.
146. Evaluate your funds a few months before the end of your mission. If you have more than you need, ask that less be sent so that you can return home without excess money.
147. Do not drive without a license.
148. Drive only Church-owned vehicles.
149. Do not drive members’ cars.
150. Do not drive nonmembers’ cars.
151. Do not give rides to members or investigators in Church-owned cars. (A few investigators have asked me why the missionaries are reluctant to offer them a ride to church. The answer: giving rides is against the rules).
152. Use cars only on approved mission business.
153. Use cars only within the assigned geographical area.
154. Be conscious of safety at all times.
155. Drive defensively.
156. Wear your seat belt.
157. Pray for the Lord’s protection while driving.
158. If your companion is driving, assist him or her.
159. Do not tamper with the vehicle’s odometer.
Upon reading my comments on bicycle safety rules, a recently returned missionary told me, “I broke everyone of these rules without the least consideration for them. In Tokyo light traffic makes heavy traffic in the US seem pitiful and they usually had no sidewalks and very narrow streets.
“You didn’t stick your arm out to signal that you’re turning left because it would get torn off. I rode in snow and rain, (everyday during the rainy season) and after dark every day. It was the only way to get around on the budget we had. Anyways I don’t want to bore you but I just want to tell you that YOU’RE RIGHT.”
I have no doubt that the church really cares about the safety of missionaries, but I can’t help but wonder if they are truly being earnest with these bike safety rules. My experience has been that missionaries blatantly disregard them. In fact they must be disregarded if you are going to obey the more prominent rule of working from 9:30 A.M. to 9:30 P.M. without exception, every day.
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160. Know bicycle safety rules.
161. Use extreme caution on your bicycle.
162. Do not ride your bicycle after dark.
163. Do not ride your bicycle in heavy traffic.
164. Do not ride your bicycle in adverse weather conditions.
165. Go directly to your new area when transferred.
166. Find your new companion without delay when transferred.
167. Have a maximum of two suitcases and a briefcase.
http://www.lds4u.com/Missionaries/rules.htm
Sorry there are some ads in that list, messed up the posting.
Newt has stated, the Era of Reagan is over. If the Era of Reagan is over, then the era of conservatism is over. You can't separate the two. Sorry, I don't buy it and I'm not buying what Gingrich is selling either. Newt might be worth a last man standing vote. Nothing more.
Romney did not serve even though he was the right age and draft number. Somehow he was able to avoid service because of his thirty month mission trip to France. Still trying to figure out how that works.
How conveeeeeeenient.
Oyyy! That's academic whoor, mate!
The subject which he instructs us isn't important, only that he is seen as authoritative and correct, regardless of the outcome.
He instinctively shys from the true hard-work job of getting rid of illegals here by devising complicated word puzzles and procedures under which he'll eventually capitulate our sovereignty - only he knowing what's best for us, of course.
He could speak rings around Obama - it won't matter one damned bit. The skeletons in the closet (yes, even worse than those some of already know about) are around the corner. The MSM will concoct them (ala Cain) if they don't emerge on their timetable.
Beck will endorse Romney - it is a given, unless Beck is actually different than the 94% of mormons who actively support Romney. I guess it is possible that Beck is part of the 6%.
14 million
Wow! I am impressed, just last week it was 12 million.
(But of course if we removed those that have left lds and those who are not active participants and those who are dead we are left with about 5 million active members of which only 15% are worthy to enter the inner “sacredness” of the temple)
“we can sometimes appear to be bigots to the outside world”
Given that the horndog prophet Joseph Smith founded the cult on the idea that “all churches are false”,
it would appear, indeed, you do appear as bigots to the outside world...
Huh? So pigs in the mud, or whores of Babylon, or satan’s workers or vile disgusting people doesn’t count. Nice to know.
NAME these posters you claim "posted false statements".
QUOTE the "false statements they posted".
LINK to it or admit you just don't like the light of truth shining on mormonism and revealing it as anti-Christian.
That's my thinking too. I'll vote for Newt in the general with only a tad more enthusiasm than I voted for the McCain ticket. I see Bachmann and Santorum as the most conservative candidates. Palin and Cain were my choices and I'm sick of "settling" for a candidate. That said, all the candidates are head and shoulders better than Obama - except Romney/ Huntsman and possibly Paul.
Why oh why do we always seem to wind up with choices like these? (Rhetorical question)
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That's my thinking too. I'll vote for Newt in the general with only a tad more enthusiasm than I voted for the McCain ticket. I see Bachmann and Santorum as the most conservative candidates. Palin and Cain were my choices and I'm sick of "settling" for a candidate. That said, all the candidates are head and shoulders better than Obama - except Romney/ Huntsman and possibly Paul.
Why oh why do we always seem to wind up with choices like these? (Rhetorical question)
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That's my thinking too. I'll vote for Newt in the general with only a tad more enthusiasm than I voted for the McCain ticket. I see Bachmann and Santorum as the most conservative candidates. Palin and Cain were my choices and I'm sick of "settling" for a candidate. That said, all the candidates are head and shoulders better than Obama - except Romney/ Huntsman and possibly Paul.
Why oh why do we always seem to wind up with choices like these? (Rhetorical question)
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ThomasMore - You just voted for Obama. (sigh)
Graybeard58 - Do you ever post that bilge to the boss? If not, why not? Why not tell J.R. what a dummy Obama voter he is?
Add me to your list of "Obama voters" because I will never vote for Romney on either half of a Republican ticket.
ping to this post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2815826/posts?page=79#79
If you haven’t seen it you need to.
Romney is FAR from a MINO. He is what the LDS call “an active, temple worthy Mormon”. That requires A LOT of effort, work, and a strict adherence to the doctrine teachings and practices to Mormonism. Too much work to just be a MINO.
Been there done that.
And, most of the Romney supporters here on FR ARE LDS. I can think of only ONE LDS on here who doesn’t support Romney and openly states so. There is a long history of identity politics and block voting in Mormonism, moreso than other religious groups.
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