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To: circlecity

I couldn’t disagree more; the issue is a matter of empirical knowledge, with metaphysical implications. It is an undisputable fact of biology that a new human being, with unique genetic endowment, is created at the moment of conception.


9 posted on 12/02/2011 10:15:54 AM PST by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning.)
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To: I-ambush
"I couldn’t disagree more; the issue is a matter of empirical knowledge, with metaphysical implications. It is an undisputable fact of biology that a new human being, with unique genetic endowment, is created at the moment of conception."

How does that scientifically equate to life? Every body I ever saw in a casket had a "unique genetic endowment" but there was no life there. Show me the objective, empirical, scientific basis for your definition of life as unique DNA.

10 posted on 12/02/2011 10:21:16 AM PST by circlecity
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To: I-ambush

The bigger point here is that Newt is actually dissecting the issue. His critical analysis actually impresses me and frankly I would have to agree with him. You can have a zygote with all of its unique human traits, but until implantation occurs, the chances of that zygote maturing into a human being is about 20-30% if I am not mistaken. Once implanted, there is greater than a 50% chance of maturation into a human being. While this has no implication on the abortion issue(nobody gets an abortion before implantation), it does show the man actually is a critical thinker.


13 posted on 12/02/2011 10:28:48 AM PST by TortReformer
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To: I-ambush
The issue is a matter of empirical knowledge, with metaphysical implications. It is an undisputable fact of biology that a new human being, with unique genetic endowment, is created at the moment of conception.

Well said.

84 posted on 12/11/2011 12:48:14 AM PST by DNA.2012
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