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Seems many are concerned, but I have always found that Judge Napolitano to be a level heads constitutionalist and and not one to over state a situation.
1 posted on 12/01/2011 9:18:15 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

To those who say “it can’t happen here”,the reply should be “open your eyes—it already is.”


2 posted on 12/01/2011 9:23:47 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: snowrip

I stand by my position that this is bad law and could make it very easy for citizens to be declared as being ‘at war’ with the United States especially those who stand against this administration and what it stands for.

In this article ( http://news.yahoo.com/obama-lawyers-citizens-targeted-war-us-154313473.html ) Pentagon counsel Jeh Johnson says: “Johnson said only the executive branch, not the courts, is equipped to make military battlefield targeting decisions about who qualifies as an enemy.”

And they are declaring the Homeland to be a battlefield.


3 posted on 12/01/2011 9:24:16 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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When Lincoln tried to deny this during the Civil War, the Supreme Court rejected him and held that the Constitution guarantees its protections to everyone that the government restrains, no matter the crime, no matter the charge, no matter the evidence, no matter the danger.

Where to start with the inaccuracies in this paragraph?

First, the judge implies the Supremes reversed Lincoln's position during the war. This is inaccurate. The case he is referring to wasn't decided till 1866.

Second, the Court nowhere says that the government must give such protections to all people everywhere. It said military courts could not be used to try civilians in those areas where the civilian courts were functioning. Obviously, military courts would continue to function for military personnel, including enemy combatants, everywhere. And military courts could continue to be used to try civilians in areas where civilian courts were not functioning. IOW, in combat zones. Or, as in the South during the war, in areas where the US courts were not functioning due to insurrection and rebellion.

Finally, the Court has never said " the Constitution guarantees its protections to everyone that the government restrains, no matter the crime, no matter the charge, no matter the evidence, no matter the danger." If it did, legal enemy POWs would have full constitutional rights, and they just don't.

And by any reasonable definition, illegal enemy combatants should have fewer rights than honorable legal POWs.

I have read the text of the Act in question. It specifically says it doesn't apply to US citizens anywhere in the world, or to legal residents within the USA.

5 posted on 12/01/2011 9:31:01 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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It seem the judge has said if passed and it did pass today and with that we now live in a police state similar to what we fought the cold war for. If they can kill a citizen in a foreign country and kill his 16 year old son and 17 year old cousin what will stop them from doing it here? The red scare of the 50’s has now become the anti American terrorist of today. Once branded a terrorist just like being branded a communist of the 50’s but today they will haul you off without a trial and keep you indefinitely in undisclosed place. Welcome to Amerika.
6 posted on 12/01/2011 9:34:59 PM PST by guitarplayer1953
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Could The Messiah implement a Wealth Tax in his second term and make it stick even in the face of a Republican controlled House and Senate? With his Czars, it’s very possible, especially if he has a DOJ head who is part of the same crime family as the Prez!

Once it occurred to me that Obama’s second term is likely to include a Wealth Tax, my level of worry went way up!


11 posted on 12/01/2011 9:48:08 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Kartographer

Congress is turning into an unaccountable politburo gang.


12 posted on 12/01/2011 9:49:25 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Kartographer

Check out this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2815004/posts

U.S. Congress enacts laws to hold civilians under indefinite military detention without trial


18 posted on 12/01/2011 10:10:59 PM PST by TEXOKIE (... and Merry Christmas to all FREEPERS EVERYWHERE!)
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He’ll definitely try it. He’ll do literally ANYTHING in his pursuit of absolute power.


20 posted on 12/01/2011 10:27:41 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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First, we have no “Constitutional Rights.” We have some that are “guaranteed” by the Constitution but like an old car, the guarantee is limited.

Congress has just notified us that the guarantee has expired. Like that old car, if we want to keep things going the way we’re used to we’ll have to do the dirty work and pay the bill ourselves.

Good uck folks.


26 posted on 12/01/2011 10:51:59 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: Kartographer

sounds great... suffer one year with 0failure messing around...

then four years to utilize such a ‘law’ by rounding up all libs and escorting them to bases in antarctica and alaska


29 posted on 12/02/2011 12:46:25 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Kartographer

Only if the USSC goes to sleep.

Meanwhile, if Obama gets another four years, he’ll certainly see to it that the USSC is filled with idiots or somnambulists.


31 posted on 12/02/2011 4:32:06 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Kartographer

,,,,,, let’s see ,,,,, I think it’s been going on for about 40 years now . . .

Next question ;


32 posted on 12/02/2011 4:46:19 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Kartographer

Congress has stolen our Constitutional freedoms— as the
Hillsdale College First Friday lectures demonstrate.However the Rights recognized in the bill of Rights as adopted by Congress in Sept.1789 and Ratified by the States Dec.1791 are fundamental Rights gifted by God that cannot be stolen -they can only be neglected -or forgotten.... or infringed upon.
the thief cannot come in to steal from a strong man unless he binds the strong man first ,as it is written. IMO we have left
our door open and have allowed the thief enter at will believing It cannot happen in America.While we slept it has.


35 posted on 12/02/2011 5:22:19 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think."
Adolf Hitler [1889-1945], German Nazi dictator
Prior to his coming to power.

36 posted on 12/02/2011 5:33:46 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (N/A)
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To: Kartographer

WTF?


43 posted on 12/02/2011 8:31:12 AM PST by KansasGirl
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