[Bokababe]

SB 1867 passed.

[Bokababe]

The link to the rest of the article is here http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/30/war-on-terror-doesnt-justify-retreat-on-rights/?page=all#pagebreak

[Gene Eric]

Liberty ping

A House of assholes save Rand and the rest that voted for Liberty.

[2harddrive]

What about the War on Energy? The EPA wants to OUTLAW drilling for shale oil and gas!

[WackySam]

On everything outside of foreign policy, RP is 100% on the money.

[Psalm 144]

BOLSHEVIK AND MENSHEVIK COMRADES AGREE ON SUPPRESSION OF COUNTERREVOLUTIONARIES AND REVANCHIST SABOTEURS AND WRECKERS!

(How is that party take over coming along?)

[grumpygresh]

Too bad the ‘right’ Paul isn’t running. Rand is much more balanced than Ron.

[guitarplayer1953]

SB 1867 passed.

Is there a accounting on who voted for it and who voted against it?

[bamahead]

So we do well to contemplate the diminishment of due process, knowing that the rights we lose now may never be restored.

Liberty may have very well died today. The Executive Branch is now sole arbiter of an individual's right to due process, as LEFTIST Republicrats like Graham and McCain cheered on. It's really quite surreal to think about.



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[Rennes Templar]

Good thing is, if it passes the house, there is going to be a lot of pressure from Obama’s left base to veto this bill, at least the draconian provisions. If he doesn’t it will hurt him big time.

http://www.truth-out.org/gut-check-moment-mr-obama/1322618578

[rmlew]

The only rights American’s associated with Al Qaeda have is not to be tortured for evidence and then summarily shot and buried in a pig carcass.

[BlackElk]

Rand Paul is right as to the unconstitutionality of illegal detention and denial of due process insofar as the victims are American citizens. I suspect that the courts will protect those citizens if and when the time comes.

Non-citizen combatants against the United States need be provided no such consideration. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Citizens ALLEGED to have committed wartime crimes against the US should be regarded as innocent until proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt and enjoy each and every right guaranteed them by the Constitution. Other "persons" should likewise be regarded as innocent until proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt and receive the lesser class of rights afforded them under the same constitution. In either class (citizen or merely person) anyone convicted of crimes in assistance of the enemies of this nation in wartime should receive exemplary punishment under law.

We should reject any analysis that makes accusation of foreign combatant status tantamount to renunciation of citizenship.

Little Johnny Jihad from Marin County, California, should have received the death penalty upon legitimate conviction although a citizen (and perhaps BECAUSE he is a citizen). He was taken prisoner in combat against us. He ought to have been made an example.

Maybe Rand Paul will someday run for POTUS. His father is an idiot. Rand, however, seems to be earning a far better reputation and consideration as one who differs from the crackpot that sired him.

[Bokababe]

Here is Fox News' Ben Swann on this bill.

[GlockThe Vote]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anjVgWNzQnk&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Great speech by Rand. Best political donation I ever made.

F U McLame!!!!

[Dragonfly]

Perhaps of interest...

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/01/congress_endorsing_military_detention_a_new_aumf/

[Gene Eric]

Rand Paul on Hannity tonight discussing SB 1867. Monica Crowley in for Hannity foolishly defended the egregious bill. Rand on the hand provided cogent criticism.