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To: SatinDoll

Of course those anecdotes you provide are not justice. They are a product of a PC culture and willful violation of the law. But mass deportation will not solve that. And even Gingrich’s paths to legality will not solve that. It is corruption plain and simple and will always exist.

As for Wong, no amount of argument that the Supremes got it wrong is going to change it. It will take another case (and I seriously doubt that any case related to Obama’s citizenship is going to be the one.)

And I simply disagree that guest worker visas would be a separate class of citizenship.

I don’t think Newts plan is perfect. But at this point i prefer it to any I have seen. I do not believe this nation is ready for the civil unrest that will accompany the forced deportation of 11 million people. But a reasoned path to legality along with strict guidelines as to who becomes eligible may work. I know that the response will be that we already have strict guidelines—if you. Are illegal that’s it. But I do not think that a.pproach is feasible, affordable, or, as Newt put it, humane. Anyone is free to disagree.


95 posted on 11/25/2011 1:48:42 PM PST by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: newheart

I didn’t say “forced deportation”, did I? Don’t put words in my mouth!

Alabama has successfully managed to make illegal aliens leave on their own. That is a good example of what I want to see nationwide.

Why should it be horrifying for foreign nationals to return to their country of origin? Mexico is not a cesspool. Neither is Honduras, or the the Dominican Republic, or Ghana, or any other place from which so many illegal originate.

With unemployment so high, we don’t need guest workers, so visas for them aren’t practical.

As for your mis-statement about “the Supremes got it wrong”, I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you did not understand their “Holding”. SCOTUS did not “get it” wrong. To be born under the jurisdiction of the United States means just that - parents here legally, legal residents intending to become citizens.

Illegal aliens here from Mexico are described by the Mexican government as Mexicans. They are under the sovereignty of the Mexican government. Here illegally, under the sovereign protection of Mexico, their children are all born Mexican citizens - NOT U.S. citizens.

Eisenhower had over a million Mexicans deported in the 1950s. It is entirely feasible to do that again, but I firmly believe the majority will voluntarily self-deport. The majority of illegals do not want to become citizens of the U.S. - they just want the freebies that come from the generosity of Yankees who don’t realize they’re being snookered.


96 posted on 11/25/2011 2:54:53 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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