I didn’t say “forced deportation”, did I? Don’t put words in my mouth!
Alabama has successfully managed to make illegal aliens leave on their own. That is a good example of what I want to see nationwide.
Why should it be horrifying for foreign nationals to return to their country of origin? Mexico is not a cesspool. Neither is Honduras, or the the Dominican Republic, or Ghana, or any other place from which so many illegal originate.
With unemployment so high, we don’t need guest workers, so visas for them aren’t practical.
As for your mis-statement about “the Supremes got it wrong”, I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you did not understand their “Holding”. SCOTUS did not “get it” wrong. To be born under the jurisdiction of the United States means just that - parents here legally, legal residents intending to become citizens.
Illegal aliens here from Mexico are described by the Mexican government as Mexicans. They are under the sovereignty of the Mexican government. Here illegally, under the sovereign protection of Mexico, their children are all born Mexican citizens - NOT U.S. citizens.
Eisenhower had over a million Mexicans deported in the 1950s. It is entirely feasible to do that again, but I firmly believe the majority will voluntarily self-deport. The majority of illegals do not want to become citizens of the U.S. - they just want the freebies that come from the generosity of Yankees who don’t realize they’re being snookered.
If only the distinction between holding and dictum were that clear cut. Language within the context of a holding may or may not have the weight of holding. That is the subject of future cases and legal journals.
In either case I am not disputing that we are discussing a class of individuals who are here illegally. I might even reluctantly stipulate the potential illegality of a minor child that has lived here most of his or her life. I am talking about, and I think Newt is talking about a path to legality for certain classes of individuals but not all. So wholesale deportation is, IMHO, not the best answer.
I used ‘wholesale’ in deference to your discomfort with ‘forced.’ But I don’t think forced is a wrong choice of words despite the fact that you did not explicitly use it . Force can take many forms and not all are bad. I know you advocate self-deportation. And I have considerable sympathy for that approach. Remove the magnets and many illegals will leave. Of those that remain it would still be more humane to distinguish between those with real, long-standing ties and roots who are otherwise productive members of the community and those who ar only here for the freebies. A path to legality for the former and a path back to the border for the latter would be just fine with me.
Any chance you have some empirical evidence that “most” are here just to snooker us and have no desire to naturalize?