Indeed.....says so much and worth the read...thanks Untwist
“Newt is being a realist. He also said that there are millions in the US that would have to go.
Better realize that as a country the immigration and border enforcement crisis goes back many years and over numerous administrations of both parties. He is taking a rational approach of separating those who have been productive and set roots with lifestyles that are compatible with our values as Americans over years from those who come to abuse our system, or worse, commit crimes.
Gingrich is not taking the bait of those (including some on Free Republic) who are just dying to reinforce the false myth that Republicans are racists and separatists. He is creating opportunities for rational alliances with many Latins who want to and may vote Republican. We can win and make real progress, and not throw away our chances to win Florida, which for sure we will lose if he throws meaningless, unrealistic red meat for some to lose the support of many others.
Newt has more brains than most on practical approaches to solving very serious problems and I support him.
Anybody who believes that all we need is to elect a president who promises to come in and simply round up 10 - 15 million people, verify their status and ship them out and we go back to the good old days just like that, needs to think. It ain’t gonna happen like that. Now, if you recognize that the Spanish-speaking people have for the most part a great family culture, are excellent workers and are strong church-goers, you see that there are many points of commonality with maintstream conservatives.
Guess what, they detest Obama, too. They detest the failure to defend the border, too. They hate crime, too. They hate the low-lifes, too. They know that when a person with a Spanish-sounding name is arrested for a crime, there are millions of Anglos ready to paint the entire community with the same, bigoted brush. Like it or not, some of the people on this forum do that, too. Think before you judge Newt on this. He is taking the smart path.”
BS, and more BS. And then you added more BS, if you cannot tell the truth about the number of illegals nothing else you say matters.
Did you just say some of us are racist and separatist?
That could be a banning offense.IMO.
Opposing foreigners on welfare and the taxpayers dime is not racist in any way.
Separatist? Yes, we are a separate and sovereign country from Mexico. Believe it or not, we expect politicians to respect that or we won’t support them.
I see a bunch of them having 3 kids by age 16 with 2 different daddies, neither of whom is in sight. Yeah, that's some great family culture!
>> are excellent workers <<
... at taking jobs that rightfully belong to American citizens who can't compete with the immigrant wages they accept.
>> and are strong church-goers, you see that there are many points of commonality with maintstream conservatives. <<
Sure, that's why I saw hundreds of those "socially conservative" hispanics cheering on the "gay pride parade" in Chicago a few monthes ago. Heck, even black Obama voters crossed over to vote for Prop 8 in California. Did you hear about massive hispanic support for Prop 8? Me either. Because it didn't happen.
Catholic voters keep getting beaten over the head on this forum with the fact that "Catholics voted for Obama". But you know WHICH "Catholics" supported him? It was those "conservative, church-going" hispanic Catholics. A majority of non-hispanic Catholics voted AGAINST Obama. But even some freepers will ignore that little inconvient fact.
>> Guess what, they detest Obama, too. <<
Sure, Obama won 78% of Latino voters because they "detest" him. And McDonald's customers hate hamburger too!
>> They detest the failure to defend the border, too. <<
English-speaking lawful American citizens of hispanic decent do. Spanish-speaking illegal aliens certainly don't -- that's how they got here in the first place! Kinda like those McDonald's customers I mentioned that always buy hamburgers.
>> They hate crime, too. They hate the low-lifes, too. <<
Maybe they can stop cheering on their corrupt government then when Mexico shows up to whine and scream about some raptist/murderer from Mexico getting justice when he rapes/tortures/kills someone in America. Alot of these criminals even kill "fellow hispanics" and yet they feel sorry for the murderer instead of the innocent victim! I can tell you I'd have NO sympathy for some American scumbag who entered another country illegally and killed one of THEIR citizens. The bastard deserves what's coming to him.
Yeah, but what a number of Freepers want is the red, red, red, red meat. Ripped raw and bloody from the steer.
Prediction: Whoever gets the GOP nomination....whoever it is, no matter how much that person may be loved here today......will occasionally speak in nuanced terms that will cause part of FR to erupt with "FU__!!!!!"