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A Discipline Problem: Paterno Fought Penn State Official Over Punishment of Players.
Wall St Journal ^ | NOVEMBER 22, 2011 | REED ALBERGOTTI

Posted on 11/22/2011 5:42:06 AM PST by Pharmboy

. STATE COLLEGE, Pa.—Legendary Penn State football coach Joe Paterno clashed repeatedly with the university's former chief disciplinarian over how harshly to punish players who got into trouble, internal emails suggest, shedding new light on the school's effort to balance its reputation as a magnet for scholar-athletes with the demands of running a nationally dominant football program.

In an Aug. 12, 2005, email to Pennsylvania State University President Graham Spanier and others, Vicky Triponey, the university's standards and conduct officer, complained that Mr. Paterno believed she should have "no interest, (or business) holding our football players accountable to our community standards. The Coach is insistent he knows best how to discipline his players…and their status as a student when they commit violations of our standards should NOT be our concern…and I think he was saying we should treat football players different from other students in this regard."

The confrontations came to a head in 2007, according to one former school official, when six football players were charged by police for forcing their way into a campus apartment that April and beating up several students, one of them severely. That September, following a tense meeting with Mr. Paterno over the case, she resigned her post, saying at the time she left because of "philosophical differences."

In a statement Monday, Dr. Triponey said: "There were numerous meetings and discussions about specific and pending student discipline cases that involved football players," which she said included "demands" to adjust the judicial process for football players. The end result, she said, was that football players were treated "more favorably than other students accused of violating the community standards as defined by the student code of conduct."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: football; paterno; pennstate
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Coach Joe Sanctimonious strikes again...
1 posted on 11/22/2011 5:42:10 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy

a football coach tries to watch out for his players??

say it ain’t so, Joe!

/sarc

obvious is still obvious... news at 11


2 posted on 11/22/2011 5:46:48 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Oh please...this is the guy who touted his program as different and better than the others. And glad to see you supporting felons...just great./sarc


3 posted on 11/22/2011 5:49:21 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: Pharmboy

I don’t get this coddling of athletes.

I saw it more in HS than college, but it seems to be pretty widespread.

If they’re going to be put on pedestals for their ability to play a game well (as they often are), then their grades and behavior should at least equal that of their peers.

If they can excel athletically only when their grades and behavior take a back seat, is it really excellence? Does it really deserve the financial, moral and other support that sports programs receive?


4 posted on 11/22/2011 5:51:57 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Pharmboy

I don’t see what this has to do with the case. Of course like Republicans they go after a coach and all that is about him. The leftist media does know how to give information of people they want.


5 posted on 11/22/2011 5:52:22 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Pharmboy

As my neighbor, who played starting D-line for a Big 10 program years ago, observed: “He’s just a football coach, he’s not a saint. People need to wake up.”


6 posted on 11/22/2011 5:53:54 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Pharmboy

In the PSU/Sandusky case, I’m more concerned about discipline/accountability of the coaching staff; but, let’s face it, IMHO, athletics at all levels of “public education” is out of control, education appears to be secondary.


7 posted on 11/22/2011 5:55:40 AM PST by izzatzo ( Anybody but Obamney and Huntsman. Cain looks better and better.)
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To: Pharmboy
Well, there it is...

"Coach Paterno would rather we NOT inform the public when a football player is found responsible for committing a serious violation of the law and/or our student code," she wrote, "despite any moral or legal obligation to do so."

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The incident prompted Mr. Spanier to visit Dr. Triponey at her home. Dr. Triponey confirms he told her that Mr. Paterno had given him an ultimatum: Fire her, or Mr. Paterno would stop fund-raising for the school. She says Mr. Spanier told her that if forced to choose, he would choose her over the coach—but that he did not want to have to make that choice.

8 posted on 11/22/2011 5:55:51 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: chrisser

It’s pretty widespread at all the other big football universities. I taught at the University of Tennessee a number of years ago (during the “glory” days of Peyton Manning and Tee Martin, under Phil Fulmer) and saw it firsthand there too.


9 posted on 11/22/2011 6:02:36 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: sten
It's football...minor league for the National Felon League. They should just shut the damn program down and get back to the business of education.
10 posted on 11/22/2011 6:06:01 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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he was saying we should treat football players different from other students

Differently. It modifies the verb. GAK, someone needs to start a charity to save the adverb.

Beyond the grammar, this is SOP for any university with a sports program. A professor friend routinely clashes with coaches over players needing special treatment on assignments or exams.

11 posted on 11/22/2011 6:07:14 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: sten

Nothing wrong when supporting players, when you think football is more important than little kids, you are one sick sack of shi*. And that is what you are protecting. Seems to me these worn out old turds need to face forced retirement. And that is the second sick thing about penn state butt boys.


12 posted on 11/22/2011 6:13:50 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Pharmboy

Hey, Penn State had a great run. Pity about the anal rape.


13 posted on 11/22/2011 6:15:41 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Pharmboy

The Penn State revelations aptly demonstrate the fallacy of elevating a mere mortal to Sainthood based on public personna. It seems that Saint “Joe Pa” was much more interested in protecting the “program” than the effect on the little boys who were being raped.


14 posted on 11/22/2011 6:20:13 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Now that was an ignorant statement...


15 posted on 11/22/2011 6:21:42 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: napscoordinator
I don’t see what this has to do with the case.

Really? Really? How could JoePa supporting accused felons on his football team have anything to do with his looking away and supporting an accused child rapist who had been on his football team and was on his coaching staff? Yep, no connection at all.../sarc

16 posted on 11/22/2011 6:28:42 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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Be careful with this people. This is a side-issue that merely shifts the focus from the university onto the deposed football coach. Paterno may face criminal & civil charges over his mishandling of the Sandusky-scandal — and that should be expected. But this is the kind of turf-battle that all coaches face. Seems to me like some petty payback. The real issues no are what the University did, or failed to do about Sandusky.


17 posted on 11/22/2011 6:31:17 AM PST by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: FourPeas
Beyond the grammar, this is SOP for any university with a sports program. A professor friend routinely clashes with coaches over players needing special treatment on assignments or exams.

"All right. Coach has asked me to reconsider and give you boys a make-up test so you can pass the Agricultural Department finals. Here is the one and only question: Spell FARM."

Um......um......um....."Hey! I got it! I got it!"

It's E-I-E-I-O!

18 posted on 11/22/2011 6:34:19 AM PST by N. Theknow (Idi Obama = Just your everyday, ordinary, 3rd World Dictator)
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To: sten

I’d love to see the emails that went back and forth when Paterno removed Sandusky from the football program in 1999 while he maintained his status as tenured faculty.


19 posted on 11/22/2011 6:39:42 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Pharmboy

If true, this is something truly the NCAA could go after Penn State for....and I suspect that in the investigation of Sandusky, there will be plenty of other things discovered, that could result in Penn State getting the death penalty.


20 posted on 11/22/2011 6:42:41 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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