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To: TBBT
Might want to read the data in your poll before popping the corks on the champagne.

The online survey of 1,432 Americans aged 18 and over included 423 Republican registered voters. Statistical margins of error are not applicable to online polls but the poll has a credibility interval of plus or minus 5.3 percent.

4 posted on 11/20/2011 9:34:31 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Sooner or later the body of evidence becomes overwhelming. Newt has at the very least risen to the top tier, if not outright lead.

There will be more denials of reality to be sure, but they start to remind me of Chip Diller in Animal House:

“Remain calm. All is well!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jqQsDklQEM

It MNJohnnie’s case the quote would be:

“Remain calm. Cain is still relevant!”


20 posted on 11/20/2011 10:03:37 AM PST by TBBT
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To: MNJohnnie

“Hate to burst your bubble but the ONLY reason these people seem attractive is because they are not in the race. The second they were subjected to the same sort of hyper negative constant media assault as the other candidates they would look just as flawed.”

Hey Barney Fwank, You post and say more negative things about our candidates that the press ever could. You are a hypocrite and YOUR own words prove it.....

Go spread ur negative thoughts to ur buddies that support obama.

Your boy obamma is gonna get his butt kicked in 2012 no matter what u post or how many negative things you say.

His 9% unemployment

His 15 trillion doallar debt

His failed marxist polices

His corrupt administration

His corrupt attorney general

His calling the American people lazy

His telling Americans to “eat their Peas” instead of listening

His acting like a king

His paying off his cronies at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack

His bailing out the corrupt unions

His bailing out his corrupt friends on wall street

These things are gonna sink ur boy obama.

Say all the negative things about our candidates you wanna say cause the “BUTTS WHOPPIN’S COMING IN 2012.


55 posted on 11/20/2011 11:16:05 AM PST by swampfox101
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To: MNJohnnie

“Hate to burst your bubble but the ONLY reason these people seem attractive is because they are not in the race. The second they were subjected to the same sort of hyper negative constant media assault as the other candidates they would look just as flawed.”

Hey Barney Fwank, You post and say more negative things about our candidates that the press ever could. You are a hypocrite and YOUR own words prove it.....

Go spread ur negative thoughts to ur buddies that support obama.

Your boy obamma is gonna get his butt kicked in 2012 no matter what u post or how many negative things you say.

His 9% unemployment

His 15 trillion doallar debt

His failed marxist polices

His corrupt administration

His corrupt attorney general

His calling the American people lazy

His telling Americans to “eat their Peas” instead of listening

His acting like a king

His paying off his cronies at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack

His bailing out the corrupt unions

His bailing out his corrupt friends on wall street

These things are gonna sink ur boy obama.

Say all the negative things about our candidates you wanna say cause the “BUTTS WHOPPIN’S COMING IN 2012.


57 posted on 11/20/2011 11:18:02 AM PST by swampfox101
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To: MNJohnnie; 2ndDivisionVet; altura; AnthonyDavar; BarnacleCenturion; BoingBoing; Bullish; ...
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Reuters asked 1432 ONLINE persons who claim they are over 18 and live in America.
Of that 1432 there would be 64.9% registered (per the census) or 930.

Of that 930 registered voters,
  -about 32% would be registered Republican (300 registered R voters),
  -about 42% would be registered Democrat, and
  -about 25% would be registered Independent or other.

But Reuters says that 463 CLAIMED to be registered Republicans! It is no wonder that this poll and prior Reuters online polls looked like they were skewed with too many liberals lying about being Republican.

There was another online poll taken almost the same dates, that is also inaccurate, but apparently for another reason.
IBOPE Zogby Poll: Gingrich Takes Lead in GOP Field, Romney Drops to Third
http://zogby.com/news/2011/11/17/ibope-zogby-poll-gingrich-takes-lead-gop-field-romney-drops-third/

Zogby allows interested parties to signup to take online polls, and right now, it is the more hard-core conservative and hard-core liberals that are the most interested in online polls. It makes sense that this would attract both the more conservative GOP, and the more liberal 'Rats, than the general population.

Zogby did separate their online 2064 likely voters into likely GOP voters, vs likely Dem voters, and seems to have done a good job with little crossover. I estimate based on the Obama 55% disapproval of these participants that they found about 1135 likely GOP voters. But of their likely GOP voters, it seems obvious they are polling too many hard-core conservatives, compared to the GOP-leaning population as a whole.

Here are those two online polls side by side:

Poll Date Sample Gingrich Romney Cain Perry Paul
Reuters/Ipsos online 11/18 - 11/19 423 RRV 24 22 12 10 est. 8
Zogby online 11/16 - 11/17 1135 LVgop 32 14 26 6 8

It was obvious to me that Reuters 'Republican data' included too many liberals lying to answer the GOP question.
It was also obvious to me that Zogby polled too many hard-core conservatives.

  -Certainly Cain must be somewhere between 12 and 26 (probably closer to Reuter's 12), and
  -Certainly Mitt  must be somewhere between 14 and 22 (probably closer to Reuter's 22), and
  -Certainly Newt must be somewhere between 24 and 32 (also likely closer to Reuter's 24).

I thought there should be some way to merge the two online polls to get something that balanced the two, and I also wanted to see how my end result might compare to the more legitimate national polls.

So I merged the Reuters and Zogby results with a patent-pending process of my own design. It took me a lot of fiddling to find a recipe that looked 'ok'. And I finally found one that seemed good enough for government work...
(3 parts Reuter result for every 1 part Zogby)

So here is my 'merged' result I call ReuZog, along with the Reuters and Zogby results:

I didn't want my merged 'poll' to swamp out other results so I give this a weighting of 283 (212 Reuters results plus 71 Zogby), as follows,

Poll Date Sample Gingrich Romney Cain Perry Paul
Reuters/Ipsos online 11/18 - 11/19 423 RRV 24 22 12 10 est. 8
Zogby online 11/16 - 11/17 1135 LVgop 32 14 26 6 8
ReuZog (Reuters & Zogby) 11/16 - 11/19 283 Lvgop 26.0 20.0 15.5 9.0 8.0


SO THEN, here below, is my 'ReuZog' result along with other national polls, in a 4-poll weighted running averages chart...

 

Much like what the government does with unemployment statistics, the following chart represents a 4-poll "rolling average" for the latest 20+ polls listed at RealClearPolitics.com (plus recent weekly national polls from YouGov).

I also weighted the polls by their size. For example, a poll with a survey size of 1000 was weighted proportionately heavier than an 324 survey size.

Weighted 4-Poll Rolling Averages of the latest 20+ Polls
listed at RCP   [as of Nov 20th]
plus one merged (Reuters & Zogby) result, and
"YouGov" 11/15, 11/8, 11/1, 10/25, 10/18 and 10/11 polls, and
Poll Position 11/8, and 11/1 polls inserted chronologically
I also broke the recent Pew poll into two, (3-day) polls



(Example methodology for this chart will be on my profile page)

(and before anyone flames me, my data is NOT responsible for the tail-end drop of Cain.
The "ReuZog data" is only included in the LAST set of data points where Cain appears to have started back up slightly)

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116 posted on 11/20/2011 11:05:06 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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